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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Dan Ching:
Also, which retail stores will be carrying the arc?
Any in Canada?
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Too soon to say.

Peter
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by geepondy:
Well now, Peter. Observing your blister pack for the Arc AAA, do you have any inside scoop for a source of cheap Duracell batteries? Actually for the Arc AAA's, it's a moot point. My main Arc LE is still on it's original battery. Still for other devices.....

Please consider adding on the Arc web site, a list of brick and mortar stores that will be carrying the Arc products.
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We will certainly add a list of everyplace we know of that you may buy our product. We already have a list of our online resellers posted.

Batteries. I know some of our fellow CPF'ers have found some good deals. I do not know of any off hand however. We buy our cells direct from Duracell but our contract forbids us from reselling them apart from our flashlight. Btw, there is a good reason for that which the resident economic majors could answer.

Peter
 
CPF Member Forum Edition inscribed on the Arc AAA is fine with me, and I would guess fine with most. I would think that most of us don't even know our member number and even if we do, it doesn't really have much significance. Certainly not enough to add unneeded cost and time in my opinion.

Peter, what would be the "other things" you would like to add to the Arc-AAA that offer more bang for the buck?

Those blister packs really look nice.

Will the Arc AAA LE really be a "Limited Edition" or will they be offered basically for as long as the normal Arc AAA? How will the CPF Member Edition Arc AAA and the Arc AAA LE differ besides the color of HA?

Thanks again Peter,

Bucky
 
Peter, keep your chin up on the LS, I will wait as long as is necessary to ensure the highest quality light you can offer.
Nice blister pack! You're sure to sell a million.
"CPF EDITION"--Love the blue type III idea,
"CPF MEMBER" is fine for the engraving.

Would love to see a pocket clip for AAA(actually this goes for the LS also), it
would fit quite nicely next to my knife!
 
OK, I'm one of the new guys around here, but as I read this forum (esp. this thread), I become more & more impressed with Arc and its leadership. It's refreshing to see a company put this much effort into product quality, customer service, and product enhancements based on customer input.

As well, the mutually beneficial relationship btwn. CPF and Arc is quite unique and a blast to watch in action. My hat is off to Peter & Arc and the folks on this forum for their efforts. It would appear that all parties are enjoying themselves and I hope to see it continue for years and numerous lights to come.

Maybe I'm too late with this request, but how does one acquire a "Member's CPF AAA"? If this is the medium, then plz put me down for 2(two). Lastly, I will gladly wait for an LS if that's what it takes to get it "right".....ok, ok, perfect. I'll patiently watch from the sidelines as you folks work your magic!
 
Peter,

Perhaps you could enlighten us with the problems you're having. I'll understand if you'd rather not, though.
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Regarding the Arc-LS, what kind of production volume are we talking about here? How many "open" orders do you currently have to fill?

What's the pass rate % on the production models? How many are produced in a week?

I belive this was asked earlier, what happens to all the "no good" LS components? Is it feasible to salvage them? Perhaps they could be sold as "seconds" or "blems" w/o a warranty...

I think this info, if you're inclined to share it, might help everyone understand the type of volume you are dealing with and the grand scale of "simple" problems like centering, etc...

Also, there are many creative people here, as I'm sure you are aware. With a better understanding of the problems, we might be able to come up with practical solutions.
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As I think you have said before, the CPF'ers have been an integral part of the specs and design for the Arc-LS. Give us a chance to struggle with the troubleshooting process, too. You never know what might happen with all these "virtual engineers" on the case!
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I know very little about the politics of running a company. If this information is not meant for the public (or your competition), then disregard the request.

I can't speak for anyone but myself, but I feel bad for all the problems you're having. I'd like to contribute to a solution if at all possible. Especially in this case, because you have given so much to the CPF community.

Just wanted to get your thoughts on the idea.

Thanks,

Mike
 
I now own 4 Arc flashlights..so many colors..so many uses..I CAN'T STOP BUYING THEM..help..need help...
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by lightboy:
I now own 4 Arc flashlights<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Just four? What's wrong - don't like 'em enough? Get that credit card out!

I found that six was a good starter number, but that 12 just feels better.

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- Darell
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by darell:
Just four? What's wrong - don't like 'em enough? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well, I would own five, but as hard as I try, I can't justify ownership of an IR model since I don't own any night vision equipment...would be a $20 paperweight...unless someone out there can suggest a good use to me...I mean no no...please don't do that...no...
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 5BY5:
Does that say type III anodized finish? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'll take this one... YUP, the retail-packaged AAAs will be black type III HA. Can't say for sure if that's what the package says, but it might as well.
 
Peter-

I currently own only one of your flashlights, a "AAA" LE and I LOVE IT!!! Last night I helped my buddy order a standard Turquoise from TTS, and have another friend "in Process". The "street-buzz" is speading Peter. I show off my "AAA" to co-workers all the time and you wouldn't believe the number of eyballs-a-poppin'. I will be ordering more "AAA"'s for myself as my wife allows, and will be giving at least seven of them away as gifts in the coming year. Word of mouth is the best advertising, and judging from your fans on this forum, spreading exponentially. It is not an understatement to say that this is a benchmark torch and people recognize that.

Thanks for taking a chance with the LS and you can count on me to order one when you start taking orders again.

I work for the largest "wholesale warehouse" chain in the world (not Sam's Club). We currently move hundreds of thousands of Maglite units a year, maybe millions. I don't know if you'd be interested or not, but when you think you are able to meet consumer demand, say the word and I will speak to one of my friends at the buying office and see about getting your products into our stores. If I am able, I sure would like to help out an honorable businessman in every possible way.

Keep up the good work Peter. We appreciate it.

Oh yeah...and "CPF Member" is great for the engraving on the forum light. If I really want my name engraved, I can have it done by the local jeweler.
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Gransee:
Thanks Ken!

1. The Extended Run Arc-AAA is being tested by the famous Craig Johnson today actually. The customer requirements are to find a good mix of run time to brightness.
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The first of two versions being tested is still going at virtually new intensity more than two days into it. The test was started shortly before 1pm on Friday, and showed a photocell (relative intensity) reading of 0.280. Within about 12 hours, it had dropped to 0.240 or so and then levelled off, and right now (approx. 52 hours later) is sitting at a steady 0.230 on the meter.

When it drops below 0.050 or so, the test will end, and the second variation of the light will go on the meter.
 
Peter,
If you produce an extended runtime can you make the case a different color maybe a military HA Green. (I assume your special customer is a military type)

This way I can tell the difference between my regular and the long burn. Unlike the colored colors I wouldnt be able to tell just by turning it on.
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"Is the battery dead or did I pick up the long burn?"
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by telephony:
...and showed a photocell (relative intensity) reading of 0.280. ....<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Just for comparison, What does a regular arc show on the meter? An infinity?
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by cave dave:
Just for comparison, What does a regular arc show on the meter? An infinity?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

That I won't know until the test is done and the instrument & photocell become available again.
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by cave dave:
Just for comparison, What does a regular arc show on the meter? An infinity?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

This is the supreme question...since it may be a while before the meter is free what is yout impression...a little dimmer than the infinity?

Is the one your testing now the brighter of the two samples?

Peter, would the price be about the same as the normal Arc?
 
Peter I was trying to read the back of the blister pack. Does that say type III anodized finish? Also I was surprised to see that we can also receive replacement o-rings and foam retainers for the price of a SAS envelope. You are constantly surprising me with YOUR level of customer service.
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Ken B:
This is the supreme question...since it may be a while before the meter is free what is yout impression...a little dimmer than the infinity?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

No way to tell that without taking the light out of the jig and queering the test. I didn't do any comparisons when I started - I just shoved it into the test jig, turned it on, and fired up the computer recording program.

It's still going too, around 3.3 days into it. Looks like you'll have to wait just a little longer.
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Go, Go Gadget Flashlight:
Peter,

Perhaps you could enlighten us with the problems you're having. I'll understand if you'd rather not, though.
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Regarding the Arc-LS, what kind of production volume are we talking about here? How many "open" orders do you currently have to fill?

What's the pass rate % on the production models? How many are produced in a week?

I belive this was asked earlier, what happens to all the "no good" LS components? Is it feasible to salvage them? Perhaps they could be sold as "seconds" or "blems" w/o a warranty...

I think this info, if you're inclined to share it, might help everyone understand the type of volume you are dealing with and the grand scale of "simple" problems like centering, etc...

Also, there are many creative people here, as I'm sure you are aware. With a better understanding of the problems, we might be able to come up with practical solutions.
wink.gif


As I think you have said before, the CPF'ers have been an integral part of the specs and design for the Arc-LS. Give us a chance to struggle with the troubleshooting process, too. You never know what might happen with all these "virtual engineers" on the case!
wink.gif


I know very little about the politics of running a company. If this information is not meant for the public (or your competition), then disregard the request.

I can't speak for anyone but myself, but I feel bad for all the problems you're having. I'd like to contribute to a solution if at all possible. Especially in this case, because you have given so much to the CPF community.

Just wanted to get your thoughts on the idea.

Thanks,

Mike
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Good to hear from you Mike and thanks. Yes, you’re right that I shouldn't go into too many details. It would be preferable if you where here in person. Then you could tour the lines and get a first hand understanding of where we are at.

In a nutshell, there are a lot of smart people working the problems. We have solutions; they just take time to implement. I usually have improvements for a product several revisions into the future. It just takes time to implement when you have a manufacturing process in place.

Yes, we are able to salvage a good amount of the parts that don't make it. For example, if the HA is blemished, we QC them out and then send them back to be stripped and replated. What is usally lost is something we don't have a lot of: time.

It will come together with the LS just like it did with the Arc-AAA. I just get impatient some times.

Peter Gransee
 
Well, that is certainly longer than I thought it would last.

Btw, the XR uses the same circuitry as the standard Arc-AAAs. The regulator is set to a lower set point so the light is dimmer but lasts longer.

Peter
 
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