Armytek Wizard Pro Prototype Long-Term Testing

[Lampyridae]

Knight_Light, thank you for your answer. I thought so. I'm a bit concerned because I sent them e-mail on Thursday, same day I got it, and still no answer. During the process of ordering and shipping, I e-mailed them twice about some import papers, Armytek service was very complaisant and they always replied in few hours. I see some other people are also waiting for answers couple of days, so I'll just have to be patient, I guess...

I like your EDC idea with shoelaces, but I'm just not good at knots as you are... I keep mine in silicone holder, but instead of headband I attached lanyard...

 

[tony613]

Tony, thanks for tip, I just posted some links...

You're welcome, and mine doesn't look like that either.


bradthebold,
Thanks for the reply on the invoice.

Knight_Light,
I like your EDC'ing ideas.

Everyone else,
Thank you for the feedback regarding the lag in response time. I'm glad they eventually get back to us, but in this case, I think I have my work cut out for me getting the battery and charger shipped.

 

[ArcticHighlander]

By the way this is what Armytek said in their CP marketplace forum on 4/27/13 (POST #5): "In the near future we plan to write both LED/OTF lumens. We do not like ANSI lumens." That was about 2 & 1/2 months ago. I've posted there asking when/if they still plan to provide OTF specs.

Armytek's reply was "We cannot say that exactly. In the near future. Now we are working on new models." My concern with not providing OFT values is two fold. One, they can't be directly compared to quality competitors. Two, it raises red flags as to a company's honesty and integrity. If they are deliberately misleading on their lumen specs it raises questions as to what else in their specs might be inaccurate. Also, do they only care about making a buck or do they also care enough about their products and customers to pay attention to their quality control, correcting their mistakes, and honestly supporting their warranty. I'm very interested in how they deal with missing and defective items identified by individuals in this thread.

 

[bradthebold]

Armytek's reply was "We cannot say that exactly. In the near future. Now we are working on new models." My concern with not providing OFT values is two fold. One, they can't be directly compared to quality competitors. Two, it raises red flags as to a company's honesty and integrity. If they are deliberately misleading on their lumen specs it raises questions as to what else in their specs might be inaccurate. Also, do they only care about making a buck or do they also care enough about their products and customers to pay attention to their quality control, correcting their mistakes, and honestly supporting their warranty. I'm very interested in how they deal with missing and defective items identified by individuals in this thread.

They sent me a charger, but with a European plug. Their solution, after 5 days of emailing back and forth, was to refund me $10 and told me to go buy the plug at an appliance store.

 

[Knight_Light]

Knight_Light, thank you for your answer. I thought so. I'm a bit concerned because I sent them e-mail on Thursday, same day I got it, and still no answer. During the process of ordering and shipping, I e-mailed them twice about some import papers, Armytek service was very complaisant and they always replied in few hours. I see some other people are also waiting for answers couple of days, so I'll just have to be patient, I guess...

You are welcome.

I like your EDC idea with shoelaces, but I'm just not good at knots as you are... I keep mine in silicone holder, but instead of headband I attached lanyard...

If you like the idea you should give it a try. It’s really not that difficult. I use shoelaces because it’s a habit of mine to have spare shoelaces when I am in the outdoors (you would be surprised how many people bust their boot laces hiking) but you can use paracord (and it will probably look better) or any other cordage. It’s really 2 simple knots. A double fisherman and a constrictor knot, if you google both of those you will find a lot of websites teaching you how to tie them.

For EDCing the silicon holder is not a bad idea but it makes the whole setup quite bulky without any real benefit to functionality.

 

[Knight_Light]

Armytek's reply was "We cannot say that exactly. In the near future. Now we are working on new models." My concern with not providing OFT values is two fold. One, they can't be directly compared to quality competitors. Two, it raises red flags as to a company's honesty and integrity. If they are deliberately misleading on their lumen specs it raises questions as to what else in their specs might be inaccurate. Also, do they only care about making a buck or do they also care enough about their products and customers to pay attention to their quality control, correcting their mistakes, and honestly supporting their warranty. I'm very interested in how they deal with missing and defective items identified by individuals in this thread.

OTF are kind of hokey in their own right. Lux is where it is at and that’s where the standard for these manufacturers should be.

A while back I had a conversation via email with Armytek in regards to customer service and honoring their 10 year guarantee. Their response was that they were very committed to honoring their 10 year warranty. I hope this fact remains true since customer service is probably the number 1 reason for customer loyalty, and with a unique specialized consumer base I think customer loyalty is even more important for brand success.

 

[Knight_Light]

They sent me a charger, but with a European plug. Their solution, after 5 days of emailing back and forth, was to refund me $10 and told me to go buy the plug at an appliance store.

I would put that $10 towards a new charger like the xtar VP1. :)

 

[bradthebold]

I would put that $10 towards a new charger like the xtar VP1. :)

Yeah, I'm hoping the XP4 will come out soon and be the perfect all in one charger that can charge eneloops with proper termination as well.

 

[Knight_Light]

Yeah, I'm hoping the XP4 will come out soon and be the perfect all in one charger that can charge eneloops with proper termination as well.

That would be awesome if they got it right, so far nitecore and jetbeam fall short on that.

 

[bradthebold]

I charged the battery to 4.15V (4.13V after an hour of sitting). I was just using the light, turned it off for 5 seconds, then tried to use it again and it wouldn't turn on and is completely unresponsive. So, unfortunately, it seems like something is wrong with it.

 

[canibalplatipus]

I charged the battery to 4.15V (4.13V after an hour of sitting). I was just using the light, turned it off for 5 seconds, then tried to use it again and it wouldn't turn on and is completely unresponsive. So, unfortunately, it seems like something is wrong with it.

Have you tried unscrewing the tail cap than tighten and try again. I have had my light do that twice battery is charged but nothing the switch doesn't light up and won't turn on.

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[bradthebold]

Have you tried unscrewing the tail cap than tighten and try again. I have had my light do that twice battery is charged but nothing the switch doesn't light up and won't turn on.

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Yeah, that will fix it, so it's not permanently broken. Just tightening the cap or unscrewing it a quarter turn and re-tightening it won't fix it though; I have to unscrew it at least 2 turns. I'm not sure why it would need unscrewed so far to make it work. Then again, I don't know why it would just stop working either.

 

[Knight_Light]

Have you tried unscrewing the tail cap than tighten and try again. I have had my light do that twice battery is charged but nothing the switch doesn't light up and won't turn on.

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I would talk to the manufacturer in getting that fixed, doesn't sound normal to me.

 

[paja-jojo]

Yeah, that will fix it, so it's not permanently broken. Just tightening the cap or unscrewing it a quarter turn and re-tightening it won't fix it though; I have to unscrew it at least 2 turns. I'm not sure why it would need unscrewed so far to make it work. Then again, I don't know why it would just stop working either.

I have the same probem, i ordered one wide and one normal - on the normal version it didn't happen, but on the wide version it happens quite often - i suppose on each occasion i tested the light it happend at least once - totaling 5-6 times during 3 days. I thing the 2 turns unscrew is not because of the turns itself but the time it is uncrewed. I can unscrew only 1/4. Also it helps to press the button while unscrewing and then releasing it. I contacted armytek today and hope to resolve soon, as i would like to use the light in expedition in one month.
Also for the record.. i'm from czech republic and it cost me another $22 on each of the lights on import tax.

But othervise the light is well made and i'm happy with it over h600.

 

[Glenn7]

Knight_light: I notice you said that you wouldn't see the green beacon light on your wizard fron 5 feet or so outside if you dropped it, maybe they have used a brighter one on the production one because mine is so bright I recon I could see it from 20 feet away outside, infact its so bright in my bedroom at night that it lights up the whole room with bright flashes and I have to make sure it faces away from me it's that bright.

 

[Knight_Light]

Knight_light: I notice you said that you wouldn't see the green beacon light on your wizard fron 5 feet or so outside if you dropped it, maybe they have used a brighter one on the production one because mine is so bright I recon I could see it from 20 feet away outside, infact its so bright in my bedroom at night that it lights up the whole room with bright flashes and I have to make sure it faces away from me it's that bright.

I highly doubt that they used a brighter LED for the production model. And I agree that it is quite bright and will flash from across the room indoors. But try taking this light into an outdoor environment and throw it into green grass that is 6 inches or higher and tell me what you think.

 

[Glenn7]

Ok I'll try that when it get a chance but if I loose it you buy me a new one :kiss:

 

[ArcticHighlander]

They sent me a charger, but with a European plug. Their solution, after 5 days of emailing back and forth, was to refund me $10 and told me to go buy the plug at an appliance store.

Mine arrived but the charger also has the wrong plug for US. I emailed them and they want me to send them a picture of it. Which is going to waste a 1/2 hour or more of my time, by the time I borrow a camera, take a picture and download it to my computer. I haven't had time to do much more than check that everything is there. But I did try to rotate the flashlight in its holder. It was very difficult to turn even with two hands while directly in front of me. It currently is not functional for its intended use as a headlamp. The holder needs to be modified so that it can be readily turned with one hand while on the head. If anyone has come up with a good way to modify it, please post what you did and how well it worked.

 

[Glenn7]

Mine arrived but the charger also has the wrong plug for US. I emailed them and they want me to send them a picture of it. Which is going to waste a 1/2 hour or more of my time, by the time I borrow a camera, take a picture and download it to my computer. I haven't had time to do much more than check that everything is there. But I did try to rotate the flashlight in its holder. It was very difficult to turn even with two hands while directly in front of me. It currently is not functional for its intended use as a headlamp. The holder needs to be modified so that it can be readily turned with one hand while on the head. If anyone has come up with a good way to modify it, please post what you did and how well it worked.

why not put a little Vaseline or silicon grease between the band and light that will make it turn.

 

[tony613]

why not put a little Vaseline or silicon grease between the band and light that will make it turn.

+1. In my case, I took the tail cap off when I was putting the light in the holder. Because of that I had a little Nyogel on my fingers (from the threads of the light) so I put it in the grooves of the light where the holder sits. The gel made turning the light easier in the holder. That said, while my light sits in the holder firmly, it is not impossible to turn - but it is much more stationary than the Zebralight H600w and its silicon holder.