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Black HAIII Rainier VS. CPF Special Rainier *Pictures and beamshots added*

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Originally posted by Cuso on 6-2-07, HERE.

I just bought a CPF special from another member, and noticed it was not has bright has my brass or black version. Also notice my brass and the black version had an "R" on the positive contact, and the CPF has an "S", anyone know if theres a bin difference on the 2? I thought they where both the same light.
 
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LED_Thrift06-05-2007 07:40 PM
Re: Brass Rainier VS. CPF Special Rainier

If the brass one is new from Peak, it has the Seoul LED in it, which may be why it has an "S" on it. The Seoul will be brighter and/or have longer runtime. If you could, I would be interested to know what the runtime difference is.

Cuso06-06-2007 05:21 AMRe: Brass Rainier VS. CPF Special Rainier

It is not a Seoul, its Luxeon model...Thas why im concerned. And the brass one has an R , its the Peak CPF 2005 model that has the S..

h_nu06-06-2007 06:02 PMRe: Brass Rainier VS. CPF Special Rainier

I am the original owner of my CPF Special Rainier and the letter stamped under the head is S. I never saw any Peak lights with R. I also thought the regular Ranier was supposed to be the same light, just not available with the red anodize.

Cuso06-06-2007 08:55 PMRe: Brass Rainier VS. CPF Special Rainier

Ill post a picture when I get the chance. I bought this light from Troy (arewethereyetdad) , he has a way with rare and unusual lights so wouldn't be surprised if its some special light he got a hold of, but it does have an R.

Cuso07-30-2007 07:52 AMRe: Brass Rainier VS. CPF Special Rainier

Here are some pictures....I traded the brass one for a regular HAIII but the markings are the same ( R version) Still you will c a very noted difference on the beamshots. Both lights used fresh of the charger AW's RCR123.


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The markings on the heads

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Ans some beamshots Black-R marked Rainier on the left Red CPF Edition-S marked on the right.


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There it is, the R-marked one totally kills the S-mark. I noticed there is another version of the CPF edition that has a round head. If anyone has this version and verifies the mark for me Ill really apreciate it.

LED_Thrift07-30-2007 08:18 AMRe: Brass Rainier VS. CPF Special Rainier

I have the red ano round head version of the 2005 CPF Peak Special and the positive contact is stamped with "S".

On the 'bright' side: what you loose in lumens you probably gain in runtime.

off topic: Nice snag on the SS Caribbean

Cuso07-30-2007 03:42 PMRe: Brass Rainier VS. CPF Special Rainier

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Originally Posted by LED_Thrift (Post 2049043)
I have the red ano round head version of the 2005 CPF Peak Special and the positive contact is stamped with "S".

On the 'bright' side: what you loose in lumens you probably gain in runtime.

off topic: Nice snag on the SS Caribbean


Since the Rainiers are hella-bright by nature I was expecting the same output on the CPF edition. I was kinda dissapointed with this one, and its even lower when you chug a 3.0v CR123 in there, so my guess is the led must be 1watt and a very low bin too.

off topic-well c about that caribbean, the guy has still to show up and split the thing up.

FRANKVZ07-30-2007 05:55 PMRe: Black HAIII Rainier VS. CPF Special Rainier *Pictures and beamshots added*

This is a guess and only a guess, but the S could stand for "Special" and the R for Rainier. Then again I could be mistaken. :confused:

LED_Thrift07-30-2007 08:56 PMRe: Black HAIII Rainier VS. CPF Special Rainier *Pictures and beamshots added*

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Originally Posted by FRANKVZ (Post 2049196)
This is a guess and only a guess, but the S could stand for "Special" and the R for Rainier. Then again I could be mistaken. :confused:

That sure sounds logical.


Cuso: the LED is a Lux III. Don't bother with 3.0v batteries, it becomes so dim it hurts my eyes! This thing is made for 3.7v RCRs. The one I have is BRIGHT for about 40 minutes, then my protected cells kick off. If I had one that was noticeably dimmer, I would call Peak. They have ALWAYS been great to deal with in my experience.

Cuso07-30-2007 10:02 PMRe: Black HAIII Rainier VS. CPF Special Rainier *Pictures and beamshots added*

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Originally Posted by LED_Thrift (Post 2049249)
That sure sounds logical.


Cuso: the LED is a Lux III. Don't bother with 3.0v batteries, it becomes so dim it hurts my eyes! This thing is made for 3.7v RCRs. The one I have is BRIGHT for about 40 minutes, then my protected cells kick off. If I had one that was noticeably dimmer, I would call Peak. They have ALWAYS been great to deal with in my experience.


I hope Robyn sees this one, and drops a line. I know the Peak guys are superb, I just want to know if the light was meant to be this dim or if i have a faulty light...And yes I feed it the 3.0 just to test and it was a lot dimmer, in difference to the 3.7.

DallasA07-31-2007 05:39 PMRe: Black HAIII Rainier VS. CPF Special Rainier *Pictures and beamshots added*

Cuso,

MJ Here I was involved during the time of these units so here is some info for you that may or may not help. The two units you have are 2 different units. Meaning the CPF Special "S" Was designed with a higher output then the "R" Standard Rainer you have.

So yes, the CPF should be brighter. You can always call Robyn at the office and send her the Rainer for a review. They will be happy to look at the unit for you and let you know what they find.

Hope this helped somewhat,

MJ



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Originally Posted by LED_Thrift (Post 2049249)
That sure sounds logical.


Cuso: the LED is a Lux III. Don't bother with 3.0v batteries, it becomes so dim it hurts my eyes! This thing is made for 3.7v RCRs. The one I have is BRIGHT for about 40 minutes, then my protected cells kick off. If I had one that was noticeably dimmer, I would call Peak. They have ALWAYS been great to deal with in my experience.




Cuso07-31-2007 08:15 PMRe: Black HAIII Rainier VS. CPF Special Rainier *Pictures and beamshots added*

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Originally Posted by DallasA (Post 2049554)
Cuso,

MJ Here I was involved during the time of these units so here is some info for you that may or may not help. The two units you have are 2 different units. Meaning the CPF Special "S" Was designed with a higher output then the "R" Standard Rainer you have.

So yes, the CPF should be brighter. You can always call Robyn at the office and send her the Rainer for a review. They will be happy to look at the unit for you and let you know what they find.

Hope this helped somewhat,

MJ


Its the other way around, its the CPF the one thats dim, the regular Rainier works great, it actually competes with some of my Cree lights.

LED_Thrift07-31-2007 09:23 PMRe: Black HAIII Rainier VS. CPF Special Rainier *Pictures and beamshots added*

Hi MJ, it's good to see your posts again. I remember waiting anxiously for your posts when the CPF Specials were being made. You were very helpful - thanks again. Hope all is well. I did not realize that the CPF Specials were set up for higher output than the Rainiers!

Cuso - if your Special isn't BRIGHT, give Robyn / Curt [Kurt?] a call.

RobynS08-02-2007 11:41 AMRe: Black HAIII Rainier VS. CPF Special Rainier *Pictures and beamshots added*

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Originally Posted by Cuso (Post 2049266)
I hope Robyn sees this one, and drops a line. I know the Peak guys are superb, I just want to know if the light was meant to be this dim or if i have a faulty light...And yes I feed it the 3.0 just to test and it was a lot dimmer, in difference to the 3.7.


Cuso -

There should NOT be that big of a difference - please send me the light and I will have it looked at and either repair or replace the unit.

Peak LED Solutions
29834 N. Cave Creek #118-249
Cave Creek, AZ 85331

Radio08-02-2007 02:53 PMRe: Black HAIII Rainier VS. CPF Special Rainier *Pictures and beamshots added*

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Originally Posted by RobynS (Post 2050282)
Cuso -

There should NOT be that big of a difference - please send me the light and I will have it looked at and either repair or replace the unit.

Peak LED Solutions
29834 N. Cave Creek #118-249
Cave Creek, AZ 85331


Now THATS customer service!!!! :twothumbs

All my Red CPF specials are brighter than my Rainiers

Cuso08-02-2007 03:08 PMRe: Black HAIII Rainier VS. CPF Special Rainier *Pictures and beamshots added*

Thanks a lot Robyn!! I will send it out asap. :thanks:
 
Robyn just heard about the computer problem.I havent heard back from you guys. Can you update me in the status of my CPF Rainier?? Was the LED faulty?? Can it be replaced? Or is the light ruined? Thanks
 
HI, Robyn can you update me on the status of my light? Did you sent it back? I havent received any replies to my E-mails or PMs. Thanks
 
Got the light!! Thanks Robyn. Its perfect...:thumbsup:.
 
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