Brightest AA LED Light?

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Hello All,

I'm looking for a torch that uses 2-4 standard AAs and lasts at least 4 hours. I'm having a really tough time figuring out what my options are though. I will be using it to search wooded areas at night as part of a volunteer SAR group.

I currently have a MagLite 3D AA, but I would like something brighter (and that comes with a *!&@ lanyard attachement!)

Any suggestions?

Thank you,

A.
 
The Fenix TK20 is pretty much designed for the work you describe. It throws very well and has a good sidespill, runs on 2high capacity NiMH AA cells for 2 hours on turbo (150 lumens, a lot more than the magled) or for 11 hours on normal mode (45 lumens, less than the magled AFAIK). It has a warm LED, which is much better for color rendition and outdoor use. Fully regulated, so no diminishing brightness. Runtime on alkalines is considerably less tough, this light is intended to be used with rechargeables. Sanyo Eneloop's low self discharge cells might be the best for you: charge a couple cells, put them in your gear and forget about them untill you need it. It also comes with a gray grip, but I figured yellow would be better for your needs.

Edit: I read MagLed 3AA reading your post the first time. After re-reading your post, you say you have a maglite 3D AA? In which configuration? 3AA-tot-D-cell adaptors and maglite 3D bulb? In that case, high output LED's will blow you away the first time you use them. If it's a different configuration, I don't know what kind of output you get out of that, so I don't know how much brighter or less bright the TK20 will be.

Anyway, be sure to pick a thrower (big and deep reflector), especially with LED's you need a good reflector to throw a beam. Up close any high output LED light will beat a Maglite 3D, but when throwing is concerned the Maglite with it's focussing reflector beats just about every one of them that's not designed with throw in mind.
 
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Hello All,

I'm looking for a torch that uses 2-4 standard AAs and lasts at least 4 hours. I'm having a really tough time figuring out what my options are though. I will be using it to search wooded areas at night as part of a volunteer SAR group.

I currently have a MagLite 3D AA, but I would like something brighter (and that comes with a *!&@ lanyard attachement!)

Any suggestions?

Thank you,

A.

The brightest 2xAA light that I have had is the Eagletac P10A2. The runtime on high will not be 4 hours. I do not know of any AA-format light with a SAR brightness level that will run 4 hours. THere are plenty of LED lights that in combination with a multilevel output that will reach a 4 hour run time. ie: low for walking in/out, high for searching. Also, some spare AA cells are not going to fill your pack. If the 4 hour duty cycle is still valid, then I concur with the recommendation that maybe you upgrade your Maglite with an LED.
 
Woe, you're losing me. :0

To be more specific, I currently own a Mini MagLite LED 2-AA. (http://www.maglite.com/AA_Cell_LED.asp)

I suppose that I don't really need 4-hour runtime, since I already carry at least 8 AA NiMH cells with me.

Can you please interpret your earlier post for me?

Thanks, and sorry for being a little new at this.

A.
 
Have you checked out the Olight T25?

Uses 2AA batteries, has a belt clip, comes with a holster and lanyard as well.

I think the Mag 2AA LED puts out about 40 lumens.

The Olight T25 has 5 different levels of output and can put out 190 lumens for 1.5. The next highest setting is 90 lumens for 5 hrs. And at 45 lumens, it lasts 12 hrs.
 
The Fenix TK20 may have too narrow of a beam for a search and rescue operation in the woods. How about the Fenix L2D-Q5 (or the LDxx), or, the Eagletac P10A2. The Olight has a good reputation as well. Any of the above will be noticeably brighter than an 2xAA Mini-Mag LED light.

If you are new at becoming a flashaholic (sic), then here are some sample websites for you are:
https://www.4sevens.com/
http://www.lighthound.com/
http://www.eagletac-store.com/
http://www.thomasdistributing.com/ (Ni-MH cells and chargers)
http://www.light-reviews.com/reviews.html (for reviews of many lights with run-time graphs)
or the reviews section on CPF.

or simply look at the ads in the banners at the top of the CPF forums.
 
How much difference is there between the following:

- Cree Neutral White (Q2) 7090 XR-E LED
- Premium (Q5) Cree 7090 XR-E LED

I'm reading on the previous suggestions.

Thanks,

A.
 
Carbon60:

Brightness-wise, the difference is neglible.

Tint-wise, the Q2 reportedly has a warmer, less harsh tint.
 
It seems that my choices are indeed between these three: Fenix TK20, Fenix L2D CE Q5 and EagleTac P10A2. All seem to retail for around USD $60.

  1. http://www.light-reviews.com/fenix_tk20/index.html
  2. http://www.light-reviews.com/fenix_l2d_ce_q5/
  3. http://www.light-reviews.com/eagletac_p10a2/

From reading those reviews, the P10A2 seems to have slightly higher output at a similar beam width as the the L2D CE Q5.

So the question seems to be whether I need the more narrow beam of the Tk20 or not…

Thanks for everyone's continued input.

A.
 
since your main usage for the lights you are interested in is for SAR related stuff you might want to consider the importance of the LED tint. The pure white tint of the Q5's may get in the way of your vision if used on a foggy or rainy night (say), or smoky conditions whereas the warmer tint of the TK20 will perform better. Just something to think about..
 
since your main usage for the lights you are interested in is for SAR related stuff you might want to consider the importance of the LED tint. The pure white tint of the Q5's may get in the way of your vision if used on a foggy or rainy night (say), or smoky conditions whereas the warmer tint of the TK20 will perform better. Just something to think about..

A very valid point indeed.

It is hard for me to visualize what the beam is going to feel like in the field.

A.
 
I find cool white LED's not that handy at all for true outdoors use. I'd definitely go with something neutral or warm. In case you don't know what I'm talking about here: A "cool" tint has a lot of blue and little red in it, "neutral" tints go more to sunlight white and "warm" are a bit yellowish white, like a good incandescent with new batteries. Tint really makes a huge difference outdoors. I notice this more and more as I start using my lights outdoors a lot more. Whatever light you get, no cool tinted LED's for outdoor use. They have way less throw and you recognize things a lot less than with neutral / warm tinted lights. Maybe an incandescent or HID would be even beter for your line of work, but those will probably be out of your budget.

If you want to stick with LED, I personally think the TK20 is your best option. It's more aimed at throw, but it's not a top-thrower pencil-beam torch so the hotspot is very useable and the sidespill is also very useable. Think wide focus and not-tiniest-spot-but-tight focus of your maglite LED at the same time (and a LOT brighter). You say you're going to use it in forests mainly? The hotspot will light up tops of trees and you can shine it down a path, but the sidespill will light a lot of your environment at the same time. I don't think the beam is going to be too narrow. But I don't have any experience in the kind of work you do. There are a couple beamshots of the TK20 and some of the other torches mentioned here on CPF. Look them up and decide if it does what you need.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask. It can be a bit overwhelming when you're new to this and we all start throwing technical terms around which we consider normal but most people have never heard about.
 
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For the TK20, think of it as a cooler beamed incandescent light. Maybe outdoor beamshots would help you visualize what it looks like?

The L2D-CE Q5/LD20 and the P10A2 are both thinner then the TK20 though. Also look at the Olight T25. The Nitecore D20 might also be a choice if you like variable output(both the T25 and D20 are more expensive though), along with the iTP C8 and the Kingpower K2.

8% off coupon at Fenix Store is "CPF8" and 6% off coupon at shinningbeam is "cpfuser".

:welcome:
 
The tk20 tint is awesome. Pure white (or blueish) LED's seem to wash out colors (especially reds, greens and browns) so things look flatter or muted. I didn't realise how much they did this until I got my hands on a tk20. When I first took my tk20 outside for a spin I was surprised how much trees and undergrowth "popped out" when compared to my fenix L2D.

When compared to my modded 2D mag (TerraLUX MiniStar5 TLE-6EX running on 6AA) the TK20 seems to out throw the mag, though it could just be that the tint on the TK20 makes things standout more. (plus it's a lot smaller too)

Also the TK20 is built like a tank, has a removable clip and comes with a holster as well. I too recommend running it on enerloops. An all in all awesome outdoor light. I wish fenix made more lights with the Neutral tint option.

(BTW I remember reading that a standard MiniMag LED 2AA is about 10 lumens - not sure about the 3AA, whereas the TK20 is 45 lumens on low and 150 on turbo. Remember though your eyes will only perceive a brightness difference as the lumen output doubles)
 
The Maglite 2AA LED is around 35-40 lumen an 1300 lux at 1 meter. The TK20 should be 40 lumen 1700 lux on low and 150 lumen 6100 lux on high.

Lux means how much light per area at that distance(for us usually 1 meter) which can be used to compare throw.
 
You guys have been fantastic, thanks a lot for all your advice. I've ordered a Fenix TK20 (before seeing the above coupon code, of course).

The tint difference makes a lot of sense to me, even though I haven't really seen it yet. Should be here in a few days!

A.
 
A very valid point indeed.

It is hard for me to visualize what the beam is going to feel like in the field.

A.
You might consider putting TWO different lights in your bag -- an incandescent for fog/smoke and an LED for clear conditions. During SAR, I don't think you can have too many lights!
 
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