Cheaper LED Cree's in Led Lenser P7 ???

aspieman

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I,ve had a Led Lenser P7 for a week now and have been very impressed with the brightness and how white the beam is, So impressed that I decided to buy another two yesterday, I came across a shop that sold blister packs where you get 1 x P7 and 1 x P3 and everything in the shop was half price for the second item if you brought 2 items so I brought 2 blister packs which cost me £82 in total for 2 x P7 and 2 x P3 which was not a bad deal for 4 Led Lensers.

When I got home I had them all out the packs as couldn't wait to play :p

But was really upset when I discovered all 4 torches had a purple haze from the beam's :thumbsdow

I even swapped the battery pack from my existing P7 but this made no difference and not only have they all got a purple tint to the beams but the other P7's have slighty less output power to my first P7 despite all 3 packets having 200 lumens printed on the packets :eek:oo: As at first I thought that they might of been the previous 167 lumens emitters before Led Lensor upgraded then to 200 lumens but all 3 P7's have the serial on the side and the red dot when you look in the lens so they are all the newer type P7's even through one of them clearly has a much brighter white light and is also chucking out about 50 more lumens!

What I'm wondering is do Led Lenser fit cheaper Cree LED's to the blister packs as they obviously sell them to the stores for less money as the packets say in big red writing FREE P3 inside packet.

I'm really not impressed at all, Perhaps they can mug off the nero typical person who has no knowledge of torches and has never owned a P7 before but I noticed the purple tint straight away where my wife could not really tell the difference as she has no interest in torches and as long as it lights up she can see enough from the bed to the loo in the night then it works ok ............ lmao

The purple tint on the P3's is a lot more noticable and I'm not a happy bunny as £82 can buy a lot of boards and semi conductors :ironic:

Could it be just a bad batch of emitters or are they trying to pull the wool over people's eyes?

Either way I'm going to write a nice email to Led Lenser! as I drove 35 miles for these torches and one was meant to be a present for the father in law but I just can't palm him off with a cheaper purple tinted Cree emitter :shakehead





Paul
 
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My Camera phone is not very good and the pictures don't display the light correctly but if you study them very carefully you can see the difference in the 2 beams.

Both are P7's and both are fitted with new duracell ultra batteries.
 
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Some more pictures of both torches beams a bit futher away ( 10 feet ) Can notice the difference now a lot more.
 
Sorry to say but this is normal as all white LED's has different tints to them. LED Lenser might not have used the same tint bin is their lights.

But then again, even from the same bin, the tint will vary.

Hope this helps.
 
Its normal for tints to vary, even within the same tint bin.
Flux should not vary all that much within each BIN. It can however vary noticeably from bin to bin.
Vf can vary, and Cree does not bin by Vf.

Nichia 5mm emitters are notorious for their sick blue/purple color. Theres no way around this with that P3... they're all going to be blue/purple to some degree.

I wouldn't bother calling Lenser CS. Just return them for a refund, and invest in a higher quality light. $82 is a lot of money to be dissatisfied, and there are a LOT of real quality lights to be found in that price range.

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oh and in response to your title... XRE prices (among the brighter flux BINs) do not vary significantly. Availability might be an issue for the brightest BINs.
 
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on ledlenser website in europe, theres a warning that there are cheaper led lenser going around. (copies/fake). you need to buy on a trusted store. may be yove gotone of these. peace bro. just a thought:shrug:
 
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