CR123R that are safe for incans??

[aml]

Ok, i learned the hard way about a year ago that the cr213r's that i bought off of ebay were ACTUALLY 3.7 volts...but i only learned that after i blew almost every incan bulb i owned.

Now i am reading about protected cells, that are regulated to 3V....but then i also read that the protection takes 12 milliseconds or something like that to kick in.....


Ok, im tired of the research, can someone just LINK me to a cr123r battery and charger kit that i can use for ALL OF MY INCANS????






and one more Q about this 3.7 charger and batteries that i have...are these batteries safe for use in ANY flashlight application??? can i toss them in my INOVA LED lights?? or will the extra voltage fry my LEDs? thanks in advance.

 

[mdocod]

use 2 3.7V rechargables to power 1 9V lamp,
use 1 3.7V rechargable to power 1 3.7V lamp,

don't try to run 6V lamps, 3V lamps, or most 12V lamps, with any configuration of RCR cells. Just buy the lamps that are designed to work with the RCR cells and you won't have any problems....

as for the LEDs, I have no idea... maybe a better Q for the LED section...

Post which lights you are trying to use with RCR123s(or make rechargable in general) and I'll see if I can link you to the best cell and lamp assembly combination available.

 

[aml]

surefire g2
a couple 6V 2 cell pentagons
a couple 9V 3 cell pentagons

i dont think there are much in the way of bulb options for those pentagons..i might be forced to continue chewing up primaries with those.

 

[mdocod]

ok, for the G2 you have lots of options...
1. A single 17670 size cell powering a 3.7V lamp assembly.
you can choose eithor a Wolf-Eyes D26 3.7V, a G&P 3.7V, or a Lumensfactory D26 HO-4 3.7V lamp..
the 17670 protected cells are available here
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=140362
the lamps:
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=127715
http://www.pts-flashlights.com/products/product.aspx?pid=1-25-26-45-6085
http://www.lumensfactory.com/products.php?cat_id=2&sub_cat_id=1

2. a pair of RCR123s also available from AW (the protected ones).. driving one of the MANY available 9V lamps on the market. Like the Surefire P90(don't try the P91, too much power), G&P G90, Lumensfactory D26 9 series lamps (any of them BUT the EO-9, too much power). The Wolf-Eyes D26 9V lamp...
I recomend the LumensFactory HO-9 for the brightest option in the configuration that is within the safe limits of the cells, runs for about 20 minuts.


for the 9V light.... use a pair of 17500 cells from AW in place of the 3xCR123 and you should be set.... (as long as there is a little bit of extra space in the tube, the 17mm diameter of the cells should fit fine, normal CR123s are 16mm or so...) A CR123 is about 34mm in length, so 3 of them is ~100mm, 2 17500s is 100mm in length total, so it is a direct replacement.

 

[Newuser01]

and one more Q about this 3.7 charger and batteries that i have...are these batteries safe for use in ANY flashlight application??? can i toss them in my INOVA LED lights?? or will the extra voltage fry my LEDs? thanks in advance.

No. You can not use 3.7 V cells in inovas.
They will need 3.0 V RCR123's.

Have fun.

 

[abvidledUK]

This Xenon torch came with 6v Xenon bulb.

I bought 4 to play with, Quite impressed really.

Use two (R)CR123's.

2x RCR123 3.0v ok

2x RCR123, 3.6v blew bulbs.

I ordered 7.2v Xenons from DX. $4 for 10 delivered

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.1104

They work fine with RCR123's 3.6v (and 3.0v...dimmer)

So whatever your torch, RCR123's really need a 9v capable bulb.

RCR123 3.6v around 9v charged for two cells in series.

For the 3.0v RCR123's and charger you initially enquired about.

Again, I recommend

http://www.dealextreme.com

They also do a range of D26 incan dropins, different voltage (G&P, Surefire type)


You may also want to research AW's li-ion battery thread

 

[Ty_Bower]

...the cr123r's that i bought off of ebay...
...Now i am reading about protected cells...
...are these batteries safe for use in ANY flashlight application???

AML seems concerned about "safety" in terms of burning out 3 volt lamps on a 3.7 volt cell. Several posters have suggested using a pair of R123A cells to drive a 9v lamp.

Has anyone mentioned the potential safety hazards (venting, explosion, fire, etc.) of running multiple unprotected li-ion cells? If his cells don't have a protection circuit in them, and he runs a pair to drive a 9v lamp, what happens when one cell runs flat before the other?

 

[Brighteyez]

Not knowing what all your incandescents are, it would be difficult to suggest anything conclusive. But the 3.0V RCR123s from Ultralast seem to work well with the 2 CR123 incandescents. A friend had used these in his G2 for about a year, though he did manage to blow a new lamp assembly when he put the batteries in hot off the charger. Hard to say if it was the batteries or the P60 as he bought the P60 off of eBay used. I took those same batteries (not fresh off the charger) and was able to use them in a SL TL-2 and Pelican M6 without any problems as well.

Ok, im tired of the research, can someone just LINK me to a cr123r battery and charger kit that i can use for ALL OF MY INCANS????

 

[Lighthouse one]

Incan bulbs seem to be more critical of exact voltage...a lot of Led lights can use the 3.7 volt rcr123 batteries...especially 1 cell lights...
THe 3.0 volt regulated batteries only have half the power of a normal 123 cell. I wouldn't use them. I would try to stick with primaries or the larger 17650 and 18650 batteries. Then you only have 1 cell to charge, and won't have near the troubles with any light with them. If you haven't bought the 3.0 volt cells yet...don't- go for the 17650's or 18650's and a charger. It's a much better set-up.

 

[asdalton]

But the 3.0V RCR123s from Ultralast seem to work well with the 2 CR123 incandescents. A friend had used these in his G2 for about a year, though he did manage to blow a new lamp assembly when he put the batteries in hot off the charger.

I used these Ultralast RCR123 cells to run my E1E for a while. It was bright and white. But I also zapped the lamp by using a cell right off the charger.

I had my Ultralast cells set aside for a while, since I got a pair of the higher-capacity Battery Station cells for use in my regulated LED lights such as the E1L. But now I found that the Ultralast cells work very well in the Fenix P1D CE, which supposedly can't use standard RCR123A cells. I haven't formally tested the run time yet.

(By the way, the Ultralast charger will not work on 3.7-volt RCR123A cells. It cuts off too early.)