CSI kit anyone

[jamie.91]

okay this thread may seem pointless but ... everyone on this form has an attraction to flashlights and i just came across this

http://www.wolf-eyes.com/product/Forensic%20Kit%20detail.html

which for some reason i realy want lmao, im also slowly becoming a big fan of CSI on tv.

my first question is how many people on this forum watch CSI and does this kit from wolf eyes intrest anyone else ?

and my second question is how many people on this forum own a UV light either bought or built as i am looking into building my own but could do with some tips and maybe where to buy parts etc.

also has anyone made thier own maybe with a how to?

thanks jamie

 

[dano]

Someone is watching too much TV. In 15 years of police work, I have never seen any "CSI" person use lights at specific wavelengths.

 

[jamie.91]

lol youre proberby right about watching too much TV, i blame the girlfriend lmao

jamie

 

[Greta]

Someone is watching too much TV. In 15 years of police work, I have never seen any "CSI" person use lights at specific wavelengths.

Really? huh! My husband has several ALS's in his van and in his vest... from "high-end" to "low-end"... and uses at least one of them daily... :thinking: I've even used my little purple Photon Micro Light a few times on scenes with him. They work great for small areas inside of cars, for instance. :thinking:

 

[Greta]

BTW jamie... here are some others for you to drool over...

 

[jamie.91]

BTW jamie... here are some others for you to drool over...

WOW:twothumbs thanks youre great, i kind of expected this thread to "flop" instantly lol

jamie

 

[Greta]

I think there is a lot of interest in this topic, but perhaps from a different POV. The CSI shows on TV are good (except the Miami one) but, as we all know, they are for entertainment value only... Alternate Light Sources are a fantastic tool for crime scene investigation and really are used A LOT! I went to a workshop on ALS's a couple of years ago at the International Association for Identification conference in San Diego. It's amazing what these lights can do! :wow: Unfortunately, the cost is often way too much for a department to justify so the the "grunt" crime scene dudes in the field often don't have access to them. They have to just collect evidence and hope that the lab rats can come up with something.

 

[M@elstrom]

Someone is watching too much TV. In 15 years of police work, I have never seen any "CSI" person use lights at specific wavelengths.

Really? huh! My husband has several ALS's in his van and in his vest... from "high-end" to "low-end"... and uses at least one of them daily... :thinking: I've even used my little purple Photon Micro Light a few times on scenes with him. They work great for small areas inside of cars, for instance. :thinking:

Owned! :twothumbs


I know for a fact that at least one of our local banks uses UV light to monitor for currency fraud, why would our local crime scene team (let alone any) be less equipped? :thinking:

 

[Moonshadow]

http://www.wolf-eyes.com/product/For...%20detail.html

I want one !!!

. . . but it's five hundred quid in the UK :mecry:

 

[gorn]

Owned! :twothumbs


I know for a fact that at least one of our local banks uses UV light to monitor for currency fraud, why would our local crime scene team (let alone any) be less equipped? :thinking:

Owned? Don't jump the gun there cheetah. I spent almost 30 years as a Peace Officer, the last 10 as a Detective who specialized in computer forensics and high tech crimes. My agency, the largest in the County never supplied me with the equipment we needed. The first forensic examination computer we had I brought to work from home. Your local bank probably uses the counterfeit ID pens too. Those are worthless if the counterfeiter knows what he is doing.

CSI Miami is one of my wife's favorite shows. I need to restrain myself from smashing the TV when it is on it is so fake.

I did purchase my own UV lights and did use them quite a bit. The best part of using the UV light was to wait for the rookie to get our from under the suspects computer desk where they were unhooking the cables. When the rookie would see what showed up under UV light they would understand why you glove up when doing a search at a perverts house.

 

[Greta]

.. why would our local crime scene team (let alone any) be less equipped? :thinking:

For the reason I stated above... cost prohibitive. But that doesn't mean they aren't there at all and/or not used. Our local department has a portable unit that cost about $5k. That's a cheap one... and believe me, when you use it, you can tell. All of the other ALS's that my husband has were purchased out of our own pocket. And truly, once you use one and "score", you can never live without it again. Having a compatible camera setup to go with the light is also a huge advantage... but again, sadly, cost prohibitive to most departments and needs to come out of one's own pocket. Guess that's how you can tell though which one of the crime scene dudes really digs his job and will do a GOOD job... he's the one with all of the seemingly geeky stuff hanging off of his vest and bandolier backpacks... and a credit card that is constantly over the limit... :laughing:

 

[ANDREAS FERRARI]

The best part of using the UV light was to wait for the rookie to get our from under the suspects computer desk where they were unhooking the cables. When the rookie would see what showed up under UV light they would understand why you glove up when doing a search at a perverts house.

Probably useful for checking the bed sheets in the cheap motels I stay at.

 

[gorn]

Probably useful for checking the bed sheets in the cheap motels I stay at.

Yeah, but if you do it once you will travel with your own linen. And please don't check the matress or you will be bringing a plastic tarp to put under your sheets.

Greta is correct. I can't even begin to tell you how many thousands of dollars I spent on equipment the Department should have provided. I bought it because there was no way I was going to get it if I didn't buy it. And the results were well worth it to me. As an example, I can't tell you how good I felt when I cleared over 200 burglaries from a single tennis shoe print I lifted off a counter top. Had I only had issue equipment it never would have happened.

 

[M@elstrom]

Owned? Don't jump the gun there cheetah. I spent almost 30 years as a Peace Officer, the last 10 as a Detective who specialized in computer forensics and high tech crimes. My agency, the largest in the County never supplied me with the equipment we needed. The first forensic examination computer we had I brought to work from home. Your local bank probably uses the counterfeit ID pens too. Those are worthless if the counterfeiter knows what he is doing.

Our Police force is a State level entity and just received a $19.4 million Forensics Services Department (FSD) specific allocation as part of this years Police Budget, with such cash flowing about this segment alone & considering the recent enhancements/staff allocations to the forensics service you would have to consider portable UV lights would become pretty much standard issue to operational forensic teams

 

[ANDREAS FERRARI]

M@elstrm-maybe your LEO's are fortunate enough to have adequate financing.But in other jurisdictions they may not.

God bless LEO's like gorn who will spend their own earnings to buy the equipment necessary to bring criminals to justice!!!!

 

[M@elstrom]

Doesn't it make you angry that Government bodies can find resources to put on "ticker tape parades" but not ensure their LEOs have access to necessary Forensics Technology, basically putting political posturing ahead of the needs of the community for which they were elected to serve?

 

[gorn]

M@elstrom,

I have worked with some Ausie forensic examiners over the years. Great bunch of guys. We use a software suite called SPADA (System Preview And Data Acquisition) that is linux based. That program suite was made in Austrailia and provided to us for free. The commercial software we use, Forensic Tool Kit and EnCase all cost thousands of dollars and have to be re resgistered every year.

I'm glad to see those guys getting proper funding. I know it has been an uphill battle trying to get the Police managers to take high tech crime seriously over the years, but now I think they all realize just how it ties in to all other types of crime and are starting to wake up.

 

[jamie.91]

i love where this is going but nobody has recomended me a light yet lol:shakehead

 

[Paa100]

I'm a 'lab rat'
we use UV
luminol
Very white
blue

our holy Grail is to find blood on black leather jackets and shoes with a light, rechargable, long lasting powerfull lamp.

Those are my requirements.

Make one.
They will come.

 

[M@elstrom]

i love where this is going but nobody has recomended me a light yet lol:shakehead

Ah yes... my apologies, have you considered a P60 UV drop in module? I saw a $19.99 Cree UV module HERE that operates in the 395nm - 400nm spectrum... did you have a particular spectrum range in mind? :thinking:

Alternatively you could recycle a burnt-out P60 module placing a single UV LED emitter there instead, this would be a relatively cheap solution providing you could find a suitably rated UV LED, perhaps cryhavok might have some 375nm 5mm LEDs left his BST thread is found HERE, I also came across a similar thread HERE with links to over 30 different UV lighting solutions :thumbsup:


BTW don't forget these UV light will require some kind of protective eye wear :thumbsup: