Flashlight for "around the house" usage

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JackTheKnife

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Hi all!

First I want to give some background for what I'm looking for.

Last two years we have hit by two major hurricanes here - the Mid Hudson Valley and I can bet it will be often weather condition across years. I have learned that regular flashlights are good for indoor usage but when I need to light something in the backyard all what I have is not good enough. Also it must be easy to operate by a woman ;) so I'm stick to regular batteries. In case of some kind of emergency she needs to have ability to light "around the house" from inside through windows.

So far I have take a look on Nitecore EA4 and Sunwayman D40A but maybe there is something else.

1) How would you prefer to purchase the light?

____I would like to purchase the light from a brick and mortar store. I am located in ______________.
_X__I will be mail-ordering or buying online, so this doesn't matter.


2) Budget: An easy question, but you may change your mind after answering the rest! :-)

____Less than $25.
____Less than $50.
_X__Less than $100.
____Less than $150.
____Less than $300.
____I have no limit.
____I’m flexible, tell me what you gotJ.
____Other, please specify ________


3) Format:

_X__I want a flashlight.
____I want a headlamp.
____I want a lantern.
____I want a dive light.
____I want a portable spotlight.


4) Flashlight-specific format/size:

____Keychain size.
____Every day carry small (2-4 inches).
____Every day carry medium (4-7 inches).
____Holster carry.
____Big enough to need its own travel caseJ.
_X__I don’t care.
____I don’t know.
____N/A


5) Emitter/Light source:

_X__LED (known for efficiency, longevity, and compactness)
____Incandescent (known for superior color rendition)
____HID (known for max output, but often at the expense of size)
____I don't know.


6) Manufacturer:

_X__I want to buy a light from a traditional mass producing manufacturer that is ready to go out of the box.
____I would consider getting a light that is pieced together (for example a “host” or flashlight body from one manufacturer, and a “drop-in” emitter from another source). Under the right circumstances, this path can provide more options to the consumer to meet specific needs, and can often be easily upgradeable as technology improves.


7) What battery type do you want to use?

_X__I intend to use alkaline batteries (AAA, AA, C, D) (disclaimer, while it does not preclude all choices, these are not recommended for many of today’s most powerful lights)
____I intend to use rechargeable nickel chemistry (NiCad, NiMH, NiZn)
_X__I intend to use lithium primary batteries (CR123, CR2, Energizer Advanced/Ultimate Lithium AA/AAA)
____I intend to use rechargeable lithium (li-ion) chemistry. Feel free to specify a size if you know which size you want (14500, RCR123/16340, 17500, 17670, 18650, etc.)
____I want a light with an integrated rechargeable battery. (Note: these choices may be very limited unless you are looking at spotlights)


8) How much genuine out the front (OTF) light do you want/need? Sometimes you can have too much light (trying to read up close up with a 100 lumen light is impossible).

____I want to navigate a dark room or read a map (0-10 lumens).
____I want to walk around an unlit rural area (50-150 lumens).
_X__I want to illuminate my entire backyard or a campsite (150-300 lumens).
_X__I want to illuminate an entire field, the neighbor's front yard several houses down, impress my friends and neighbors, etc. (300-700 lumens).
____I want ridiculous amounts of lumens (800+ lumens).


9) Throw vs. Flood: At what distance will you be most likely to use this light? Select all that apply.

____Less than 1 yard/meter (reading, other close work)
____Less than 5 yards/meters (looking for something inside a dark shed/garage/basement)
____5-20 yards/meters (check out a noise in the backyard)
_X__30-50 yards/meters (I have a big backyard)
_X__50-150 yards/meters (I live in a very rural area/farm with wide open spaces)
____150+ yards (I want maximum throw possible)


10) Runtime: Not over-inflated manufacturer runtime claims, but usable brightness measured from first activation to 50% with new batteries (Measured on maximum output).

____Up to 30 minutes (I want the brightest [and potentially smallest] light for brief periods)
____30-60 minutes (I have plenty of batteries just ready to be changed)
_X__90-120 minutes (Runtime is moderately important, but still not critical)
____3 hours + (I critically need this light to run on max for extended periods in between battery changes/charges).


11) Durability/Usage: Generally the old phrase “you get what you pay for” is very accurate for flashlights.

____Not Important (A “night-stand” light).
____Slightly Important (Walks around the neighborhood).
_X__Very Important (Camping, Backpacking, Car Glove-box).
____Critical (Police, Fire, Search & Rescue, Caving, Survival).
____I don't care.
____I don’t know.


12) Switch Type and location (choose all that apply):

____I want a forward clicky (Helpful for momentary activation and signaling).
____I want a reverse clicky (For use with multi-mode/level lights).
____I want a momentary switch (Predominantly for use with signaling and short bursts of momentary light only).
____I want a twisty switch (Tighten the head/tailcap to activate, and the light will stay on until the head/tailcap is loosened).
____I want a body mounted switch (near the head, like on a Maglite).
____I want a tail mounted switch (found on the majority of today’s high end lights).
____I don't care.
_X__I don’t know.
____Other, please specify____________________.


13) User Interface (UI) and mode selection. Select all that apply.

____A simple on-off with only one output level is fine for me.
____I want 2 light levels. (Brighter/short runtime and Dimmer/long runtime.)
_X__I want multiple light levels. (Some lights have 5-16 light levels.)
____I want a programmable light.
____I want a selector ring.
____I want a strobe mode. (Blinks to show location.)
____I want SOS mode.
____I want a beacon mode.
____I don’t care.
____I don’t know.


14)Material/Finish/Coating

____Plastic/composite body (this may limit your choices significantly).
____Anodized Aluminum – either type II or III (Hard Anodized) (Aluminum, specifically HA, is the most common material/finish for today’s flashlights).
____Stainless steel (durable, but much heavier than aluminum)
____Titanium (durable and nearly as lightweight as aluminum, but can be moderately to significantly more expensive).
____I don’t care.
_X__I don’t know.
____Other, please specify____________.


15) Special Needs/extras: Is there anything else you want or need that hasn't been mentioned? Select any below.

____Red filter (for preserving night vision).
____Other filter colors (Amber, Green, Blue, _________).
____Dedicated R/G/B secondary LEDs.
____“Hybrid” light (bright incandescent combined with long running LEDs)
____Pocket/belt clip
_X__Holster
____Wrist/Neck Lanyard
____Crenulated bezel
____Non-sparking Intrinsically Safe (IS) for use in explosive environments

Thanks for any help
 
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Malkoff MD2 (TurnKey High/Low) - :thumbsup:

Only two levels, but super-simple and totally reliable.

Also, easily upgradeable with standard Malkoff drop-ins ... (you could upgrade to a M361, if you wanted multiple levels, etc).
 
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Maybe a little off topic but I use a surefire 9p running 2 17500's and a malkoff HCRI single mode and it's superb for around the house type stuff :)
 
Defiant flashlights from Home Depot. (3C, 1 level). $25.
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?348448-Defiant-flashlights-from-Home-Depot

New Mini Maglite Pro+ LED Flashlight (2AA, 2 levels). $30. Get the anti-roll accessory for it $5.
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?333051-New-Mini-Maglite-Pro-LED-Flashlight
New Mini Maglite Pro and Pro+ Demo - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XJBjUURSqo
I would stay away from the Mini Maglite Pro since it only has a single high level which would kill the batteries too fast during an emergency.

Buying top of the line flashlights for around the house usage is overkill. I'd rather have more than one reasonably priced reasonably rugged flashlights.
A Defiant by each outside door.
A Mini Maglite Pro+ in the kitchen drawer, on the night stand, in the car glove compartment.
 
+1 for mini Maglite pro +

I'd opt for the non + model because the lady may be become confused by the operation of low and high.

This light has a lot of runtime and it rivals my 200 rotary with tint and brightness but the beam is garbage. :(
 
By "regular batteries" I assume you'd like to stick to AAs...

I have D40A and like it a lot even though I'm not a fan of electronic switches (additional non-serviceable failure point) - my biggest gripe is that the switches are very light and I keep activating them if I pick up the light wrong. Fortunately it can be locked out - a must for travel/bag/holster carry.

Love having decent moonlight/low modes on a power thrower - efficient low lumen modes are a critical emergency modes for me. We lost power for a week during Sandy and I hate the idea of burning batts with higher lumen modes when it's not necessary. Sure you can use another light for low lumens, but I just find it a whole lot easier to deal with 1 flashlight at a time.

Pure white smooth beam, throws well, I really like the mode spacing, and a nice compact package. Get some AAA>AA adapters and you'll be able scavenge any household batt in a pinch. I bet a 9v (6xAAAA, and only cell continuously available in stores during Sandy) would run this light for ~150/10 hrs (moonlight/low) using 3 cells x 2.
 
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you can look for thurnite TN11S, or T30S, there are high quality and suit you
 
+1 on the Malkoff turnkey MD2 with hi/low ring. Very solid light.
CR123 primaries in matched 2 cell sets are now very reasonable at Battery Junction. They have a very long shelf life and don't leak.
 
+1 for the SWM D40A if you prefer inexpensive batteries , 4 eneloops and a charger (or alkalines) and you ready to go with almost free lumens , otherwise the Malkoff is also a good choice and the CR123 batteries are a good choice when the light is stored away for a long time.
Be careful when you use alkaline batteries because they can leak when long time stored! , it's better to keep the batteries out of the light when not in use for a long time.

GJR
 
I suggest Energizer L-91 AA lithium primaries rather than alkalines. They don't leak and have longer runtimes. The advantage of alkalines is you find them. The disadvantage is they don't store well. Put them in your emergency light and there is a good chance that the light won't work when you need it.
For emergencies, you can also consider a solar panel to charge your cells during the day. I have a basic one from cottonpickers in the market place. Small (A4 size - a little bigger than letter size paper) and I can charge Li-ions and Eneloops during the day. He sells bigger ones, but this one is fine for me.
 
I suggest Energizer L-91 AA lithium primaries rather than alkalines. They don't leak and have longer runtimes. The advantage of alkalines is you find them. The disadvantage is they don't store well. Put them in your emergency light and there is a good chance that the light won't work when you need it.

Yes, avoid alkalines if you don't want your flashlight destroyed by leakage. I've had alkalines (from all major brands) leak and ruin electronics several times, sometimes well before the expiry date, and always before the battery voltage dies. So you won't know it unless you take the batteries out.

Lithium primaries are a good alternative, although expensive. Another good alternative (and cheaper too!) is to use Eneloops (or another brand of low-self-discharge NiMH cells). The latest Eneloops claim they will hold most of their charge for 5 years, which is years past where I'd trust any alkaline not to leak.
 
I like Eneloops/rechargeable Li-ions for lights that I use regularly. For lights that sit in the car or in a drawer for an emergency, I prefer lithium primaries. Eneloops/rechargeable Li-ions are cheaper if you use the light regularly, but the investment in cells and a charger for an emergency light doesn't work for me. On the other hand, Eneloops, Li-ions and appropriate chargers hooked to a solar panel (with some lithium primaries in reserve) is my set up for an extended power outage.
 
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For an indoor light my favorite is Fenix TK22. Super easy operation. Extremely floody, it's almost like turning a light switch on (and decent throw too). Can be used with CR123s. Comes with a diffuser. I'm a power freak for outdoor lights but for indoor use and backyard use TK22 is all u need
 
Based on what your looking at so far i would recommend you look at the Fenix LD41. It works on 4AA which you seem to like. Its easy to use and has multiple modes. What I like is that the low setting is only 5 lumens which is great around the house late at night when its very dark and you don't want to kill your eyes, and the High is 520 Lumens which should be more then enough to light up any yard area. The others you are considering are all really good lights of course. You wont go wrong either way you go. Note that the shape of the Fenix is very different then the other two. It has a flat body which is a little unusual but holding it in your hand is sweet. It can also serve as a protection device as well. You would not want to get hit with the head of this light trust me. Also the strobe mode is very intense and can be used to totally disorient and blind an attacker or a wild animal. Good luck
 
One of my general use/around the house lights is a fenix E21 and I love it, I keep NiMH's in it cause it gets a lot of use but if it was a true emergency light that didnt get used for extended periods I would keep it loaded with L91's instead. The fenix has a simple tail on/off switch with a hi/low twist head so anyone who picks it up can use it with no instruction. I believe the E25 is another great option in the class but with its side button and multi-mode UI you might have to teach people how to use it. That may not bother you but my E21 is also my go to light when I need a loaner so that was important to me (actually my friend has it in myrtle beach right now).
 
Maybe a little off topic but I use a surefire 9p running 2 17500's and a malkoff HCRI single mode and it's superb for around the house type stuff :)

Yes, it is off topic, in a thread asking for a specific recommendation for one user's needs. There are plenty of places to discuss your setup, but this is not the thread to do it.
 
I'd go with either a Fenix LD22 or PD22. The LD22 uses AA batteries. The PD22 is more compact and uses CR123A batteries. Purchase your batteries in quantity at battery junction to save $$
 
Yes, it is off topic, in a thread asking for a specific recommendation for one user's needs. There are plenty of places to discuss your setup, but this is not the thread to do it.

I'd say you (now we) are straying even further off topic because you feel the need to educate me.

I apologise if my post seemed more like bragging than helping that was not my intention.

My intention as part of this community was to do my upmost to help even if its a poor attempt. The information I supplied was the best I could do with my current knowledge, the reason I provided this information was due to the low response (I was reply number 2) and from my own personal experience I know how disheartening it can be when nobody wants to help you.

Even if I couldn't help him I felt it best to try.

Jamie
 
Actually, except for price, I don't think the post was off topic. And it took 14 posts and 2 days for anyone to notice.
The advantage of the 9P is long runtimes, which might be of interest to the OP (even if not highlighted in the questionable post).
 

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