HID Spotlight

[BatteryCharger]

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BakerOnFire90 said:
If only it produced 4 amps /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif

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Who says it won't?

 

[MaxaBaker]

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??? It says 3. I do want full power from my light. Do u think it would draw that many as it's peak? And for how long?

 

[BatteryCharger]

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It says it's 3 amp hours...that doesn't mean it can't produce more than 3 amps. It would probably be fine with upwards of 20 amps. My Vector 100 watt spotlight draws about 8 amps from it's 3 amp hour battery.

 

[MaxaBaker]

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Oh! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif I have never been a pro at the battery stuff. I know some basics. But , thank you Battery Charger! You have saved me hours of online searching. I owe ya one. All i gotta do now is convince the bosses(AKA parents /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/banghead.gif) to let me buy the the light and battery. I'll keep u updated.

C ya,
Baker

 

[markdi]

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have a vector vec126bw 2 million cp spotlight with a removable battery pack.

I installed a 35 watt hid ballast and bulb in it.
it is not as bright as my hid thor mod but it is smaller.
the battery pack has 2 - 6 volt 3 amp hour sealed battery's in it.

I had to break the battery pack open and separate the 2 battery's because I needed room in the center of the light for the bulb and ballast.

the 2 - 6 volt battery's are permanently attached to the inside walls of the spotlight.
the ballast is on the outside of the spotlight mounted flush with the back of the case.
looks pretty nice-no exposed wires.

I get 25 minutes continuous runtime at 42 watts power draw
this pack was the best of the 3 I have.
so I am getting about 21 watts out of its 36 watt capacity

I loose 15 watts to internal losses in the battery's

nimh would do a lot better-lower internal cell resistance.
but nimh has the highest self discharge rate

lithium ion even better - low internal self discharge
highest capacity/volume/weight ratio.

my estimates for 1 hour runtime 12.5 volt packs and most 35 watt hid systems(35 watts to the bulb 42 watts total draw - 7 watts used by ballast to drive bulb)

lead acid 5.5 amp hour

nimh 4.5 amp hour

lion 4.5 amp hour

 

[MaxaBaker]

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Sounds like an easy fun mod. How does it compare to the original power of the incan.? I have a 2.25 Husky that I could try doin the same thing to.

C ya,
Baker

 

[MaxaBaker]

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http://www.pyramidtechnologies.com/files/38-Xenon-SheetPTI.pdf

How does Pyramid Technologies come into this? I thought Havis-Shields took over Collins Dynamics. Is this A copy?
Their price is $250.

 

[markdi]

I do not have a working 100 watt incan spotlight to compare my hid thor or my hid vector to.

They are both a lot brighter and whiter now.
The thor is brighter and throws farther - bigger reflector and glass lens istead of plastic.
At midnight last night I went to a large local park that is not lit very well I was there for 5 minutes running both lights and 2 cop cars and 3 cops asked me what I was doing ?

I told them that I modded the lights and I was just checking them out - for the first time in a larger darker area than my back yard - playing with them - some one living near to the park called them. They were impressed.
One of them had a magcharger - it was nothing - dim and yellow.

one of them took down my name and phone number.(I lost the post it with his name and number)

he has a 2 million cp vector and he may have me mod it.

I went back to the park with a few tools and I got the focous perfect on both lights.

the thor mod is easy easy easy - any one can do it.

there is a very very good thread on how to do it.

http://www.candlepowerforums.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=602248&page=6&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1

the 2 million cp vector is a little more work.

the havis sheild light is a great deal at 200 bucks

I like my phillips ballasts and philips 4100k bulbs.

it was fun modding the lights.

the ballasts were designed for car use and they are mounted where they get plenty of air flow so I am sure my lights will be very robust and reliable.

 

[cheesehead]

BatteryCharger,

100 watt SLA cannot perform at the advertised specs. If you get 8 amps out of a 3 amp hour battery, it's low voltage and close to 60% of the rated wattage. That said, it's still stupid bright and a great light. All the Vector, Dorcy, etc,...spots are still great lights.

The HID mods are regulated and just much brighter than any 100 watt incan (or even the dual beam Vector at 200 watts). But after that, you have to go to aircraft landing lights, 150 watts and up.

 

[BatteryCharger]

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cheesehead said:
BatteryCharger,

100 watt SLA cannot perform at the advertised specs. If you get 8 amps out of a 3 amp hour battery, it's low voltage and close to 60% of the rated wattage. That said, it's still stupid bright and a great light. All the Vector, Dorcy, etc,...spots are still great lights.


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I forget the exact measurements, but my Vector light draws 8 point something amps from the 3ah battery, and it only drops to around 11.6v. I remember I calculated about 94 watts. Interestingly, the bulb is stamped "75 watts".

 

[markdi]

before I modded my vector to hid I put a bigger switch and wiring in it.
the whole circuit drew 74 watts stock - 100 watt bulb
measured after 1 minute on time

after the mod 87 watts with a 7 minute runtime

 

[cheesehead]

markdi,

Those were the numbers I was getting, which means the bulb will last 10,000 hours or some ridiculous number like that /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ohgeez.gif.

BC,

If you are using an ampmeter, it may be off by 10-20%. I did the same thing and the numbers weren't very good. SLA's get "repolarized" or something like that when run at high currents (versus a car, where the bulb is run off of the alternator). Eh, I was just disappointed with the numbers I was getting, even though the light was still "stupid bright"-more than any sane human will ever need.

Um,...er,...well,...um,...is there any chance of a group buy for the Maxabeam? Sorry, I just had to ask /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif.

cheese

 

[MaxaBaker]

NO chance of a buy here on the Maxabeam /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif. "Stupid bright" is good.

 

[NikolaTesla]

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You have the bad boys, LarryK. Do you think this thing is better than an X990 With wires hanging out? X990 adjustable focus? Me thinks not but would like to see shoot out / beam shots. Also total weight with portable battery and rest of gobbly gook to make it portable. I will stick with my X990 and Ken-Rad PSL 35- NO wires. Be neat to see comparison though.

NikolaTesla /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

An Arc lamp is the Spark that takes away the Dark--HID Forever!

All My Lights

Some Lights

 

[larryk]

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Hi NikolaTesla, I never saw this light in action so I can not comment on how it compares to the X990. I to like a self contained light also, but for someone that would be luging it around for a while the separate battery pack on your belt or waist might be preferable. Where in IL. are you located ? Larry.

 

[MaxaBaker]

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The idea of a fully contained light appeals to me also. But, I believe larryk is right. It all depends on what you would use it for. If you need it on hiking trips or something where it would be hand-held for a long period of time, I don't think the 6 pound x990 would be the preffered choice. But, a lot of the CPFers use the lights for fun most of the time and that isn't really a factor in that case. The x990 does come with a shoulder strap I think and the spot-flood function is nice though. I would choose the x990 any day over the HS, but it costs $300 more and isn't very tough or waterproof. So, it really is a trade off. Maybe someone with more skill than I can mod a battery pack onto the light itself? If that were possible, I believe the HS may win in popularity. Just a thought.

C ya,
Baker

 

[Raybo]

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Well Baker..........I just E-mailed Brent to purchase one of these, hopefully he will return with a responce and I can get one of these lights.
I'm chomping at the bit for one.

I'll keep you informed. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/santa.gif

 

[Sway]

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Guys don't forget about Kevin at batterystation he has the 7Ah PowerSonic SLA's for $17.00 then pick up an inexpensive tote or video camera bag with a shoulder strap at Wally World and your all set to go blasting the darkness away /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Later
Kelly /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/santa.gif

 

[BatteryCharger]

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BakerOnFire90 said:
The idea of a fully contained light appeals to me also. But, I believe larryk is right. It all depends on what you would use it for. If you need it on hiking trips or something where it would be hand-held for a long period of time, I don't think the 6 pound x990 would be the preffered choice. But, a lot of the CPFers use the lights for fun most of the time and that isn't really a factor in that case. The x990 does come with a shoulder strap I think and the spot-flood function is nice though. I would choose the x990 any day over the HS, but it costs $300 more and isn't very tough or waterproof.


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The X990 is kind of heavy, but it's also very well balanced. Carrying it for a long time isn't bad at all. As I mentioned in another thread, you can also use a seperate battery pack if you like.

Nothing against this light, but for the money I'd rather just mod my own...

 

[MaxaBaker]

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Good point battery charger. For the price of the x990, you could buy 2 thors, d2s-d2r bulbs, and ballasts to mod both thors to HID for around the same price. Plus you would have 2 100w bulbs laying around afterword for anything else you'd want to do. Not a bad idea, but I'm not really a fan of the way the beam pattern looked on all of the modded thors I have seen.

Brent, I'm glad someone shelled out for the light; I've been waiting to see its performance before I purchase one.

Anyway, battery charger, do you think its possible to get more x990's for $300?, I would have to take that offer. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif