How does red/inferred light work? What wont ruin night blindness?

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Is there any infer red that is worth having without night vision? How bright of a red light can I have that wont ruin night vision? How many lumens can it be so someone cant see you far away?

Also thinking about replacing an interrior car light with a red bulb to perserve my night vision.
 
You cannot see infrared light without NVGs. Infrared is not part of the visible light spectrum and the human eye cannot see it.
 
Is there any infer red that is worth having without night vision? How bright of a red light can I have that wont ruin night vision? How many lumens can it be so someone cant see you far away?

Also thinking about replacing an interrior car light with a red bulb to perserve my night vision.






Your eyes can't see infrared light, although many cheap IR LEDs emit some visible light also. Asking "How many lumens until someone can see me" is like asking "How loud until someone will hear me?" It depends - environment, individual, distance, and so on. You can see a dimly glowing bulb for miles if it's in plain sight.

As far as I can tell, red is considered a "night vision color" because your eyes do not respond to it very effectively. This seems to mean that for the same number of photons bouncing around, you won't see as well (and neither will people looking for you). But I WANT to see! Here's where we get into me making conclusions based on my limited information.

I can't see very well by red light - nobody's eyes can, but I think I'm worse off. Even if I have an incandescent light with a red filter on (to avoid monochromatic color, the worst type ever), I can just barely tell bright surfaces from dark. I can't tell if wood is wet (rotted), or if puddles are holes. For me, that's never a useful light for seeing. If I'm going to have enough light to see, I'll need more red light than most any color, and more light of any one color than if I have white. So give me a superdim white LED any day, and I'll be happy.
 
Is there any infer red that is worth having without night vision?
I am not sure.

How bright of a red light can I have that wont ruin night vision?
This varies from person to person... there is no correct answer to this question, other than for you to try various output levels for yourself.

How many lumens can it be so someone cant see you far away?
How far are of a distance is 'far away"?

Also thinking about replacing an interrior car light with a red bulb to perserve my night vision.
Not a bad idea, although your night vision when driving is already adjusted to oncoming traffic headlights. You'd be better off just using a white color at a low level, and gain the advantage of color resolution. I personally find ~10-15L perfect for this.

Couple other things to keep in mind...

I personally find red LEDs completely wash out any color resolution. So while I do help preserve night dilated vision, I can not tell color differences at all using a red LED. I find red lights perfect for just snooping/navigating around the house at night, but if I need to resolve color differences forget it. Just last night I was trying to eat strawberries with my SF-A2 and I could not tell which were ripe.

Many Lumen/LUX meters can not accurately measure the red wavelength. I was talking to bigchelis about this and his (and many other ) light measurement systems, simply can not register light in this wavelength accurately. If I had to guess... its because the red frequency is too far off the "zone" of visual white light, on the LAB axis scale. So.. I personally don't really think published lumen specs in the red color can be trusted.
 
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