I re-learned a few things about the ol' Mag 3D today

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(This may be relevant to those looking at mag upgrades)

I've got a red Mag 3D that I've probably had for at least 10 years. It's seen only occasional brief use during that time (it was useful for running off two teens who were messing with my dog one night) and I decided it was time to give it some love! :grin2:

I got one of the 3W Mag led drop-ins from target for about 20 bucks. (I had a leftover target giftcard that still had 8$ on it, so that gave me a good excuse to do this!) I grabbed a 10 pack of Rayovac D cells too, so that should hold me a while!

Anyway, I played with the converted mag for a while and re-learned a few things I had forgotten about it.

One, this is definitely not a light for close range work. I'd say it's got a minimum comfortable operating range of maybe 10-15 feet. There's a really bright hotspot in the center with a dim spill beam around it. At close range the hotspot kind of blinds you and you can't see stuff in the spill very well. Also, despite being adjustable, you can't really get a good flood beam for close range; I remembered the incan bulb was the same way.

The other thing was the heft. It's fine for short term but you sure wouldn't want to have it in your hand all day. I didn't really notice it while I was playing around with it, but when I used my Minimag afterwards it felt like a toothpick in my hands! All in all though the 3D to me is just one of those "feel good" lights that I like to have around.

It was interesting to compare the beam to the 2AA Minimag led. Both lights are advertised as 3 watts. The mini has a much better flood beam for close range, probably due to it's more modern reflecter vs. the old 3D. However, the surprising thing is, when you compare the mini and 3D side by side, you see that the 3D spill is almost the same brightness as the mini's flood area. And the 3D has a significantly bigger spill area. The 3D spill is good for lighting up the area in front of your feet even if the hot spot is shooting further out ahead (a plus for walking).

I'll have to take the 3D out at night soon to check it out in wide open areas and at longer ranges. It's tough to evaluate indoors!

Anyway, I was pumped about this little mod that gets my old 3D back in the game! :D


Whew that was long. Thanks for reading!

See ya.
 
Or you could hit the reflector with some hair spray, I did that to mine and it helped smooth the beam out :thumbsup: Plus you can always wash it off with warm water if you don't like it...
 
Now swap out the LED for a current gen one and get double the output.

I'd keep a smaller/floodier light with me for closer range use. A diffuser would also work.
 
I want to get one of those monster 500+ lumen dropins for my 3d sometime but I'm using the magled dropin right now. You'll love the runtime improvement from the incans. Doesn't throw quite as far as my once favored halogen bulbs did but not by too much, and the runtime is a huge benefit as an emergency light. For a more even beam there are various places selling orange peel aluminum reflectors online for 5-10 dollars, though I haven't tried any of them I can't see why they wouldn't work great.
 
Yeah, I thought about doing lens and reflector upgrades, but I don't want to go too crazy with this light; it's not one I would carry around every day, you know? I definitely like knowing that it has really long run time if I need that capability.

The upgrade was a good way to use up one of those leftover giftcards though. That's my excuse anyway! :D
 
One big problem with large Mag's is if it's cold outside, and they are cold (say, in your car etc) then they are downright uncomfortable to hold. They really feel like you're holding a block of ice after a few minutes.
 
My only complaint about my MagLED 3D is the lack of heat sinking. Used it one night to look for something I'd dropped and after a VERY SHORT time period of continuous use, the output dropped basically in HALF. Now, its nice that under extended useage this would greatly increase batt life, but for other things - like searching for a dropped flashlight in the woods - it really is less than ideal.

All in all, though, its a great led for the masses and a good emergency light to put up next to the minimag SMJLED.
 
Just swap the luxeon emitter for a ssc, so after it dropped to half it's still as bright as luxeon on start up. :D
 
Whoa, I tried it out tonight outside my apartment when I came home. There's quite a bit of ambient light around from streetlights and building area lights. I tried the beam on bushes and stuff at ground level. I could see the beam on the target, but with all the background light it was hard to evaluate it. So I looked up and aimed it at the top of the tall pine trees that were behind the building. Wow! Now we're cookin' ! :D A nice, smooth spotlight beam at that distance, enough to light up the treetop. Also, there was a bit of fog in the air, but the beam had no trouble blasting through.

I didn't hang around outside too long, 'cause I've read about how several people here have drawn the attention of cops/security by spotlighting stuff at night. I had already seen several cop cars on the way home and I didn't want one of them coming over to ask what the hell I was doing!
 
Or you could hit the reflector with some hair spray, I did that to mine and it helped smooth the beam out :thumbsup: Plus you can always wash it off with warm water if you don't like it...
Hairspray is pretty flammable. I would put it next to an incan bulb.
 
I have a couple of old 3 D Maglights. Been thinking of upgrading one to an LED.

What is the best LED drop in to use these days?
 
The best drop in is probably a Malikof (sp?) devices drop. I don't have one so my opinion is worth exactly what it costs you!

I think M*gleds are not as bad as many here would have you believe. They do tend to mostly spot oriented, but I used two in candle mode when I put in my ceiling fan one night and it was plenty of light.

You might also want to check into Mr Bulks MT1 and MT3 drops.
 
Get a stipple reflector and make it a Mag85.

The size of the 3D really isn't for close up work and a light of this size really should be a "bump in the night" light so make it powerful for spotting stuff far away outdoor, and it's got the heft in case you need it.

Use that the 3D has going for it to your advantage and embrace it.
 
In a dangerous situation I would probably grab my 4D mag before anything else. It's not just a flashlight, it can double easily as a serious *** kicking tool. Try and do that with your Dereelight DBS! Also, at least for the first 30 minutes or so, a good ol' 4D or 5D incan mag is a really bright flashlight. What else..Oh yeah you can buy them anywhere and everywhere...they really have there market segment by the balls.
 
What else are you going to sell to the average person ?

AA flashlights don't run so well on alkalines. NiMH batteries require a charger. CR123 batteries can cost a small fortune if you don't buy over the internet or use rechargables.

Even a little 2C Maglite LED runs for many hours with all the light you need when the power goes out.
 
To remind / inform any new readers... that one of the simple upgrades you can make to your old Maglite is to get a glass Ultra Clear Lens that lets up to 10% more light out the flashlight. $6.25 from www.flashlightlens.com and the size all Mag C's and D's take is the 52.1mm x 1.90mm.

If the 3D is too heavy check out the C size Maglites. About half the weight with better ergonomics and narrower easier grip. C size mags are often overlooked :shrug: Even the MagLED isn't so bad... for the C size you can get a heatsink that stops the MagLED from dimming. The same heatsink allows the TerraLux 6EX drop in to run cooler, more efficiently and increasing its working life. A 3C with UCL lens, heatsink and TerraLux 6EX is a potent combo...
 
What else are you going to sell to the average person ?

AA flashlights don't run so well on alkalines. NiMH batteries require a charger. CR123 batteries can cost a small fortune if you don't buy over the internet or use rechargables.

Even a little 2C Maglite LED runs for many hours with all the light you need when the power goes out.

Yeah, NiMH are exotic... But yes, 123's are insanely expensive if you don't buy them over the internet, and seems most people are happy to buy crappy Titanium or other brand batteries if they do buy the 123's online.

But at least you can pocket carry 180+ lumens rather than 40 lumens in a heavy baton. :rolleyes:
 
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