is arctic alumina.....

skillet

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Is arctic alumina enough to attach the lux to the heatsink? Does it harden any to hold is what I'm asking...?? Was about to do my first mod didn't know...

Thanks CPF for turnin' on the lights...

Skillet
 
Simple answer is no, it does not harden.
If you want the emmitter to hold, use the actic alumina adhesive (2 part epoxy), which can be obtained in the sandwich shoppe.
Hope this will help you /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
It depends on the mod. If the LED is held onto the sink by mechanical means (solder joint, etc.) then thermal paste is fine. I'm pretty sure the sammies from the Shoppe only use AA paste, not epoxy.

Peter
 
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LitFuse said:
It depends on the mod. If the LED is held onto the sink by mechanical means (solder joint, etc.) then thermal paste is fine.

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Agree to this, I should have mentioned it /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
When building my sammies, I do not use the epoxy because it will be easier to exchange the emmitters if the thermal paste is used.
 
well i is not building a sammie... i was putting an emitter on a heatsink... I should have paid more attention to paying more attention.. I know what heatsink compound is... i've use it many times... i just had it in my head since landing here on CPF that the articalumina was somewhat "adhere'ing"..... oh well... I'll just order a M#T while I wait... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

skillet
 
You have to remember though that using AA expoxy will more or less bond the emitter permanently so if you plan to upgrade in the future, be prepared to end up with a destroyed emitter.
 
skillet, a trick I use with non-adhesive thermal compound is to apply just enough thermal compound to coat the metal underside of the emitter, taking care not to get any compound onto the black plastic ring that surrounds the metal slug.

Then, after positioning the slug on the sink, I dip a toothpick in cyanoacrylate (use your favorite superglue of choice), and use the toothpick to 'feed' it into the little gap between the plastic and the heatsink or mounting surface. A low-viscosity glue is highly recommended so it will flow into the crack. You need not use too much. Take care to keep it centered. Usually, I apply a dot to each side, re-center it while the glue is still liquid, and wait for it to dry. Then I can add more glue without the emitter floating all over the place. Add glue until you're happy. You can even go crazy and fill the entire gap if you want, I don't do that but I make sure there's glue across all sides of the emitter, wherever I can reach. Never had an emitter break off, even in the MicroMag application where the reflector places stress directly on the emitter itself. I use a little more glue for that one. Cyanoacrylate can be crazy tough, I found out the day I bonded a Q4H Lux1 star to a metal heatsink - I ain't gonna try removing that one /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I've used this trick very successfully on many, many lights, ranging from MagDs with Hotlips to MagC Hotlips/LuxVs, a dozen sandwiches, and even my Mag3X (although with stars it's a little different, but easier). Never bought a single tube of AA Epoxy in my life /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
thaks for that info KevinL.. i had thought about it.. but dismissed it as a flawed idea.. In times past "super glue" is not so super for "fillling".. But is sure did the trick... I now have the wire connected to my new and only LuxIII.... You see, I just needed it to hold till i got the glow powder epoxied on... .. Now to get the right resistors ... and my 2D to 3C mag mod will be complete ....

ala peanut butter sandwiches...

Skillet /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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Never bought a single tube of AA Epoxy in my life


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KevinL, I'd say that puts you in the same situation as 100% of the population - nobody's ever bought a single tube of AA epoxy, since it's always sold as a pair of tubes. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
 
I have the Artic Alumina epoxy. In a thin enough coat it is NOT permanent, as the stuff is a bit brittle when it sets. (Thank the aluminum oxide in it for that.)

I've heard of folks thinning the epoxy out with Artic Silver or Artic Alumina to make a semipermanent/removable bond, but haven't tried it.

oO
 
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