"If you find something that truly works great for you. Buy at least two. Heck, buy several if you can afford it. Pretty soon the company that makes it will either discontinue it or 'improve' it. Either way, if you lose the one you have, if it gets stolen, or just wears out; you're not gonna be happy. So buy another one as soon as you can."
Honestly, that's just excellent freaking advice!!
Currently collecting funds for a Z2L, 6PL and 6PDL for the collection in MINT, unopened boxed. Makes roundabout 370 Euro... yeah.... :shakehead bad addiction. Good thing is, scale model kits for the same amount of money take up way more space, even unbuilt.
I agree, they discontinue 2 of the most well known and dependable flashlights (6PL and G2L) and replace it with a light that features a ugly design, glued head, and a crappy plastic lens which somehow costs more.As of 3:45pm (PST) today (6/14), the 6P Original is back on their website. It has had it's "discontinued" status reversed. However, it's MSRP is listed as $88, compared to the 6P Defender, which is listed at $79. That seems the reverse of how they were listed before. The 6P LED and 6P LED Defender are still listed as discontinued. Very confusing...
I just received word of all the discontinued products and I am deeply shocked. Even the original Surefire 6P and the Z2 in any incarnation - a big mistake from my point of view and from that of many flashlight fans. The current lineup of lights like the 6PX with its sealed head and lack of parts replaceability (unlike the 6P, Z2, G2,...... C2 linesetc.) reduces this line of products to the level of some chinese FenixOlightThrunite light. I know that Surefire still offers its great warranty, but I would hate to ship a flashlight halfway around the globe to replace a lense someones tooth got stuck in. I am very sorry for the way your product line is currently heading.
Thorsten, we are discontinuing incandescent models as that technology has been eclipsed by the benefits of LEDs. In order to keep up with the latest technology and consumer demand, we have to make space with future products. We are one of t...he few brands that actually have kept the same models around for 20+ years and will still warranty them as long as we have the means to do so. Also, to keep as much in the USA as possible, somethings have to give. Sorry to dissapoint.
Noticed a lot of Incandescent models discontinued on your website the other day...a lot of my favourites. They still have a following in photography, caving,outdoors, etc. (superior color rendition, IR capability, etc.). Do you guys plan on keeping ANY incandescent models in your line-up? Also, how long do you guys plan to have replacement bulbs available for these models? My M4 has a special use, that, unfortunately, can't be replaced by LED...
we have a strong supply of bulbs for most of the lights and will offer them until they're sold out. In regards to color temperature or special color rendering needs, we're working on some first-of-its-kind warm white LEDs that will render like incandescent. The Minimus Vision headlamp will likely be the first product with this new SureFire-only LED.
2) r.e. Ditching their Incans, they respond starting off with a new minimus: "with this new SureFire-only LED."
-This may be interesting...a new "warm" LED??? Is SF stepping to the front of the pack with a new warm LED that actually renders color extremely close to incans??? Be interesting to see what the tint of this "Surefire only" LED...
The Surefire Minimus Vision is marketed as 80 lumens.
There are already LED's being produced that put out 80lm of warm white high CRI light. It's good to hear that Surefire's exploring new emitters, but they're not about to revolutionize the 80 lumen High CRI market.
The SSC P4 S42180 is rated 76lm @ 4000 CCT @ 93 CRI (typ).
we're working on some first-of-its-kind warm white LEDs that will render like incandescent.
Nor even the first LED that SureFire have had made to their own design...
Who said anything it there bring only one? :nana:What was the previous one?
1) r.e. bulbs for discontinued lights "We will offer them until they are sold out"
In regards to color temperature or special color rendering needs, we're working on some first-of-its-kind warm white LEDs that will render like incandescent.
Didn't mean to write "one" was gonna edit my post, but wasn't bothered :laughing:
What LED's are you referring to?