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PLEASE *ONLY* REPLY TO THIS THREAD IF
you've personally experienced a La Crosse BC-700/BC-900/BC-9009 Charger 'Meltdown'!
you've personally experienced a La Crosse BC-700/BC-900/BC-9009 Charger 'Meltdown'!
Examples:
- The plastic in the cell bay area has buckled.
- One of the 7 buttons has dropped.
- The center of the LCD display has turned black.
- Other?
For suggestions, corrections, questions, etc..., please use:
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LaCrosse BC-9009 / BC-900 - The Melt-Downs Continue...
or
Send me a PM
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Thanks!
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LaCrosse BC-9009 / BC-900 - The Melt-Downs Continue...
or
Send me a PM
.
Thanks!
If you voted in the POLL, *PLEASE* :bow: also post a reply answering the following questions:
1.) Charger Model and Version # (i.e. BC-9009 v35):
2.) Date Charger purchased (mm/dd/yyyy):
3.) Vendor from whom Charger was purchased (i.e. Amazon.Com, Thomas Distributing, etc...):
4.) Date of Charger 'Meltdown' (mm/dd/yyyy):
5.) Frequency of use of Charger (i.e. Continuous, ~X times per day/week/month, etc...):
6.) Cell(s) being charged when 'Meltdown' occurred (i.e. Eneloop 2000mAh AA, RadioShack 750mAh AAA, etc...):
7.) Date Cell(s) purchased (mm/dd/yyyy):
8.) Approximate number of CYCLES on Cell(s):
9.) Selected Charge Rate(s) in (mA):
10.) Is your Charger plugged into either a Surge Suppressor or UPS?
11.) What, if any, high current and/or 'noisy' devices are plugged into outlets on the same circuit breaker/fuse?
12.) Where any of those devices CYCLED (i.e. turned ON from OFF, or OFF from ON) while the Charger was in operation?
13.) Enter a brief description of the Charger 'Meltdown' damage (i.e. Cell Bay buckled, MODE Button dropped, Center of LCD Display turned black, etc...):
NOTE #1: I intentionally BOLDED and COLORED each question INDIVIDUALLY so that when replying, the CPF member need only:2.) Date Charger purchased (mm/dd/yyyy):
3.) Vendor from whom Charger was purchased (i.e. Amazon.Com, Thomas Distributing, etc...):
4.) Date of Charger 'Meltdown' (mm/dd/yyyy):
5.) Frequency of use of Charger (i.e. Continuous, ~X times per day/week/month, etc...):
6.) Cell(s) being charged when 'Meltdown' occurred (i.e. Eneloop 2000mAh AA, RadioShack 750mAh AAA, etc...):
7.) Date Cell(s) purchased (mm/dd/yyyy):
8.) Approximate number of CYCLES on Cell(s):
9.) Selected Charge Rate(s) in (mA):
10.) Is your Charger plugged into either a Surge Suppressor or UPS?
11.) What, if any, high current and/or 'noisy' devices are plugged into outlets on the same circuit breaker/fuse?
12.) Where any of those devices CYCLED (i.e. turned ON from OFF, or OFF from ON) while the Charger was in operation?
13.) Enter a brief description of the Charger 'Meltdown' damage (i.e. Cell Bay buckled, MODE Button dropped, Center of LCD Display turned black, etc...):
- CLICK on 'QUOTE'.
- Remove the extraneous text, including the beginning and ending QUOTE tags.
- Add the appropriate answer on a NEW LINE.
NOTE #2: The Version number of your La Crosse charger is the number that's momentarily displayed on the LCD for cell #4 when you 'Boot' (Power up) your charger. The number on the bottom, we believe (discussed elsewhere on CPF), relates to the case.
AFAIK, the BC-9009 began with v35 firmware.
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12/30/09 UPDATE #1: To the CPF members who complied with my request / instructions in the NOTE above, :twothumbs Thank You!
To those who didn't , PLEASE consider EDITING your ORIGINAL REPLY and adding your 'Meltdown' Details to this thread. For folks not 'fluent' in "vBulletin Forum Software Speak", it's as easy as sssh: I've been using Firefox for so long now I HOPE these instructions, or something similar, work in Internet Explorer):
- Go to your ORIGINAL REPLY and RIGHT CLICK on 'EDIT'.
- OPEN a NEW TAB or WINDOW in your browser (let's call it #1).
- Go to Post #1 in this thread and RIGHT CLICK on 'QUOTE'.
- OPEN another NEW TAB or WINDOW in your browser (let's call it #2).
- COPY the 13 BOLD Maroon Questions from #2 into #1.
- In #1:
- ADD the appropriate answer to each question on a NEW LINE.
- DELETE the text from your ORIGINAL REPLY.
- CLICK 'Preview Changes' to verify everything looks correct.
- If it does, CLICK 'Save Changes' to complete the EDIT.
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12/30/09 UPDATE #2: In response to a PM'd request from ShawnLam, a NEW and *VERY* 'Safety Conscious' CPF member, I added:
For more ShawnLam-specific 'Meltdown' Details, please also see: Search this Thread: | Advanced Search | User Name: ShawnLam (for the related 'Discussion Thread': LaCrosse BC-9009 / BC-900 - The Melt-Downs Continue...)..
One of the challenges for me dealing with this problem is that it is mainly a US problem. La Cross chargers are not easily available in Canada, except previously from US online retailers, which is how I obtained mine.
I verified with our Provincial regulations branch, the BC Safety Authority, and was told it is not even legal for a BC retailer to sell this battery charger in BC as it does not have a recognized 3rd party safety certification. The CE mark La Cross displays is a self-assessed mark that is not equivalent to UL, CSA, or dozens of others.
Unfortunately in the US there are no national rules for electronics certification of this class of devide, although I have not looked into any State regulations as there are just too many.
The Amazon spokesperson I spoke with told me that they do not have any safety requirements from their retailers but I did let them know that we have safety requirements in Canada.
Although I don't consider my work a big victory yet as the product was only off the Amazon marketplace for a few hours, it is no longer being sold outside the US and at least not available to any Canadians.
Also being Canadian it would be too difficult for me to start any legal action and fortunately no one has been hurt or property damaged (that has been reported) so damages would be limited to a simple refund of money spent.
The other issue is that there just aren't enough people reporting their meltdowns to the US Consumer Product Safety Commission, even though the online form only takes 3 minutes and you are allowed to remain anonymous. In all these years of meltdowns, I was the first to report anything to them. We all know there are many more with meltdowns because they have posted on Amazon, CPF, and returned their melted chargers to Thomas Distributing (2 confirmed) but until they report to the US CPSC that simply isn't enough.
I just hope La Crosse can figure out their problem, but how optimistic can I be? It isn't an entirely new problem, it is just that we are making more noise than before and it is getting worse.
NOTE: At this point in time, I don't know if the above 'Search this Thread' LINK depends on a COOKIE on my PC, or if the imbedded SEARCHID will eventually 'timeout', or if it will even work from YOUR PC. I will test it from another PC on my LAN 'shortly' (yet another 'Experiment' into how vBulletin works - "Nothing Ventured, Nothing Gained" ).
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