Laryngoscope light source

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Hi. I am prototyping a new laryngoscope design (for details see http://members.shaw.ca/friesenscope/
for a picture see http://members.shaw.ca/friesenscope/BladePic.htm

Craig Johnson suggested this site as the best place for me to find people who may be able to help me with some questions.

A laryngoscope is a device for visualizing the larynx of a patient for the purpose of inserting an endotracheal tube to provide an airway and control ventilation (eg with trauma, or during anesthesia). Available laryngoscope light souces use either an incandescent bulb or a fiber optic light guide. I believe that an LED light source would have a number of advantages, including cost, cool temperature (very important to avoid burns), and low power requirement. Even the bluish cast of white LED's seems to be an advantage in that it highlights the tonal differences in the predominantly pinkish tissues very well.

There is not much in the medical literature on the required brightness, but a generally accepted benchmark is 100 candelas per meter squared from a neutral gray card about 4 to 5 centimeters from the light source. In my experiments so far, I have found that two 5mm super white LED's (eg 500TW4D from LC LED) do very well. I have run these in parallel using 6 volts from a battery, and appropriate resisters (in parallel).

For compatibilty with available handle, I would like to be able to use a handle designed for two C batteries. My specific questions are:

1: I know that half C 1.2 volt batteries are available, but are half C 1.5 volt batteries available? This would allow 6 volts with minor modifications to the handle. Is there any other battery type available that would do the trick?

2: Can anyone suggest small DC to DC inverters that could allow the use of a 3 volt battery for this purpose. Basically, what is needed would have to be small enough to design into the handle itself. Also, how much would interference would available inverters produce in other electronic equipment (monitors, pacemakers, etc)?

3: Having seen the level of discussion on this forum, I am humbled. I would greatly appreciate ANY suggestions, including better LED's or other ideas for a power source. (The two 5mm LED's represent pretty much a maximum allowable size for the light source, so a single brighter smaller LED would be ideal).

Thank you
 
Unless I am missing something, you are not using Nichia LEDs. You should switch to them, they're by far the best
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1:Lots. You could opt for expensive 123 cells but your best bet would be I think 2 D cells with my answer to number 2.

2: A member here, Dat2Zip makes some excellent products, including the Madmax board. I have ordered one from him but it's not here yet so I can't personally attest to the size of them but I've heard them describes as larger than a nickel, smaller than a quarter.

3: Oh, I answered this one first.

Good luck!

Get yourself an Arc AAA, then perhaps you will see some of the things that are possible. It is a 1 5mm LED light powered by ordinary AAA batteries. Maybe it will inspore you, if not it's still a great light. Either way I am just an amaetur and you can expext some even better suggestions to follow.

OH YEAH The links don't work
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What kind of beam angle do you want? You can go down to a 3mm package or even SMD LED's if a wide angle of light is desired. Wayne Yamaguchi (Dat2zip) has the MadMax driver as Saaby mentioned and it is likely small enough to fit in your power supply handle. Regarding noise or interference, you should query him. I couldn't get your image to come up; page not found?

- Don
 
Ok. FYI there's an "edit" button, you can fix the ones above if you wish.
 
One of dat2zip's MADMAX or BADBOY pills or one of Lambda's Ill-Pills fitted to a fiber optic light guide would probably be quite suitable. These both use Lumiled's Luxeon Star LEDs and are capable of producing about 10 times more light than a 5mm Nichia.
 
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Scoper,

Sent you a pm message.

-WayneY

In case you didn't get it, you can look at my web site for more details.
dat2zip flashlight web page

I have two converters that sound like would work for with a 2C battery configuration.

O, I'm pretty sure you would like to adjust the light level with some knob or control (I'm guessing) and both my current converters don't do this. They are fixed brightness. The MADMAX board has a trim pot that can be re-worked to wire in an external larger version that might do this.

The BADBOY would require a new layout to incorporate varying the brightness.

You can drive multiple 5mm LEDs either in a parallel or series connections (depending on converter). You can drive one Luxeon LED with one of these converters.

-WayneY
 
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