led lenser t7

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:bow::clap::rock::lolsign: @marduke

 

[Gunner12]

Ok, so now there is LedLenser vs "any other company".

I'll remember that next time.

 

[L.E.D.]

Yep, the difference 4x vs 3x makes in DIRECT DRIVE.

I think you're right Marduke. That was my first and best guess, that the extra voltage helps make it flatter. Still, I'd rather have that extra cell improving the performance rather than a direct drive 3 cell, as a previous post has shown comparing the two LL graphs.

I should have been more civilized in my retort, Deusexaethera, that thug middle finger smiley and the whole punk-*** son thing just set me off. I really do need to lighten up, though, in real life, not just on the internet. Just been feeling so high strung lately.

 

[kramer5150]

PS:
If you could get your favourite light in the same size with the same beam pattern but with the added possibility to focus the beam a little for long distances (and with a focus that does not get too easily changed), would not everyone be happy about that?
(Yes, I know, that's hardly possible... :))

Yes, but only if the lumen output remained the same switching between flood and throw. Designs that sacrifice Lumen output to obtain a tight focus do not interest me.

Kudos to you all for a heathy / spicy discussion... like a good Thai meal.

 

[L.E.D.]

Yes, but only if the lumen output remained the same switching between flood and throw. Designs that sacrifice Lumen output to obtain a tight focus do not interest me.

Kudos to you all for a heathy / spicy discussion... like a good Thai meal.

The lumens do remain the same, you can tell when you do a ceiling bounce test and shift focus. The overall output stays exactly the same, shadows are just more pronounced under the spot setting of course, and the bounce will look brighter directly under you on spot, but on flood the bounce lights up more area.

 

[deusexaethera]

No, actually your laser pointer doesn't outthrow the aspheric build. Son. In a post above, I already said throw isn't everything.

Okay. Lasers can throw to the Moon, but the MOSPOS wins. :thinking:

I know throw isn't everything; the laser pointer joke was making fun of people who think it is. A laser can out-throw everything but the Sun, but it's not terribly useful for seeing things.

(before you mention it, yes I know my little green laser pointer can't throw to the Moon, but no un-lased light can.)

 

[deusexaethera]

Yes, but only if the lumen output remained the same switching between flood and throw. Designs that sacrifice Lumen output to obtain a tight focus do not interest me.

Well, since lumens measure the total light output of a light source, instead of the beam's apparent brightness at any single point on an imaginary sphere surrounding the light source (usually the brightest point in the center of the beam, for marketing reasons), it does stand to reason that any light worth paying for would have a lumen rating unaffected (as much as possible) by the focusing mechanism.

 

[yellow]

Think I can also be considered a "constant LL-basher" :rolleyes:
but
I always explain why:

1st: I know the old models and their pricing :( (and its difficult to be objective when the datasheets show the same crap as be4)
2nd: most all of the new line are made sooo GREAT mechanically, that the nonexisting drivers, non up to date finish, price, silly battery size choice and chemistry restriction and the still ridiculous brightness/runtime claims dont get together.

Sure most of this is individual (battery size, regulation) and the P7 really makes a nice output graph, so using 4 cells seems a good idea.
But imagine that light with 2 AAs (or maybe 3 in a round body to stay at same dimensions, or an 18650), a good driver and data offered that comes close to reality.
Wouldnt this kick as?

The machining alone would immediately lead to me getting such one.
(I am not sure on the focusing device, think I like a good medium beam more. Spill is necessary adn I have no use for extreme throw))

 

[Egsise]

If you could get your favourite light in the same size with the same beam pattern but with the added possibility to focus the beam a little for long distances (and with a focus that does not get too easily changed), would not everyone be happy about that?
(Yes, I know, that's hardly possible... :))

Waterproof focusing system would be quite nice.