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[davyro]

Hi onerror I own a M14 that uses 4xAA batteries & i use rechargeables with a higher mAh than 10000 in fact i'll go & have a look now....yes i was right i use 24000 mAh rechargeables & i've always used them with no problems whatsoever.

 

[yellow]

You use 2.400 mAh AA cells (which are not recommended imho), not 24.000 mAh ones
but onerror asks for a 3*D cell light

PS: I would also use Ni-Mhs in the light, even when the maker does not allow them - and hope for the internals (most possibly just a resistor, as is/was usual at LL) to survive.
As the cells are comparable in actual use (lower voltage should fight the lower internal resistance ... with a led) it should work

PPS: but I would change to an 1*18650 light
(which I have already done years ago)
;)

 

[harrods]

I am really curious if the new Led Lensers will be regulated. That would make these flashlights a lot better.

Its my first time here. By now I am sure you know some of the new Leatherman Led Lensers are regulated and with too many options and modes. Also still exist in the market many of the old ones. There is an X21 new and also with more
lumens and a pack battery although you can also use 4 D type rechargeable ones. I have too many flashlights most using lithium rechargeable batteries mostly bought in an eBay very well known eBayer. Only deals with the first class brands like JetBeam, Olight, all the new magnetic arrow controlled, etc. Thanking you, Best Wishes....

 

[harro]

Having a bit of trouble with those darn decimal points.
2400mAh = 2.400Ah
24.000mAh = .024Ah
24000mAh = 24.000Ah

 

[Dplight21]

It is a nice thread. After reading this thres I know about the Led lenser. All the views are excellent regarding this matter.

 

[Ezeriel]

...just wait for the Fenix LD50 :)

 

[Oztorchfreak]

If anybody is contemplating using rechargeable NIMH D size batteries I would urge you to spend a bit more and buy the Low Self Discharge (LSD) variety as they hold the charge much longer than the older type of battery.

Imedion are working perfectly in my TK70 but there are other brands out there.

I use 8 of them and switch them around every week.

You can pick up your flashlight in a years time and know it will work fine with around 80% charge still in them.

After 12 months or much less the older style NIMH rechargeables will be stone dead flat.



Cheers

 

[harro]

If anybody is contemplating using rechargeable NIMH D size batteries I would urge you to spend a bit more and buy the Low Self Discharge (LSD) variety as they hold the charge much longer than the older type of battery.


Cheers

Hello Otf;
When you say LSD NiMh cells, i assume you're referring to something similar to a Sanyo Eneloop ( without showing bias to a particular manafacturer ). I'm contemplating purchase of similar for my TK70 but arent too sure where to start looking. I know though, that it would beat topping up even when std NiMh are in storage !!

Many thanks;
Mike.

 

[Oztorchfreak]

Hello Otf;
When you say LSD NiMh cells, i assume you're referring to something similar to a Sanyo Eneloop ( without showing bias to a particular manafacturer ). I'm contemplating purchase of similar for my TK70 but arent too sure where to start looking. I know though, that it would beat topping up even when std NiMh are in storage !!

Many thanks;
Mike.

I am only going by what works for me after I asked around and got some info off others that use D size NIMH rechargeables a lot in TK70s and so on.

I get 1hr 20mins on Turbo from my TK70 before it drops into high and then it runs all the way down to about 2 1/2 hrs to dead stop.

I use the 9500mah ones.

PM me and I can then talk about where to get them at a good price and the good things I have found out about LSDs.


Cheers

 

[Slazmo]

I asked Led Lenser Australia and they said that using Sanyo Eneloops was perfectly ok in the MT7 - will not affect warranty or the torch itself. I kept the conversation for 'just in case' anything goes wrong - but I highly doubt it!

 

[Slazmo]

Since putting the Eneloops in 2 days ago - I have found that there is a certain level of heat that is being emitted from the head of the torch more so than with std alkalines - I also noted that there is some change in colour of the torch itself - this after only 2 days. I'll let the Eneloops run a little longer and go from there...

 

[wobble987]

Any update slazmo?

 

[Dirtbasher]

Any update slazmo?

Eneloops work well in my MT7

 

[wobble987]

upon reading other user's post. it seems that the manual for MT7 says its ok to use with any AA battery (nimh, lithium, etc.).
I have m14, which says it is ok to use with rechargable and lithium. my h14 and m5 however says alkaline only.

furthermore, i noticed on ledlenser website* says that the SLT on the M5 has "Smart LED Protection". wonder what it actually is. 'smart' yet cannot use NiMH? :confused:

http://www.zweibrueder.com/ENG/technologie/smart.php

 

[wobble987]

another question to throw to the fire....

what is the difference between h14 and h14r?
they are both powered by AA.
H14 can only take alkaline.
but H14R can takes both NiMH and std AA battery.
they both appear to be identical, with only differentiation being that the R comes with AA NiMH, and a plug in charger out of the box.

what makes the H14R able to take the NiMH, but the std H14 cannot? has it got something more apart from the said charger?

 

[Slazmo]

Wobble - the Eneloops are going great!!! Led Lenser Australia said that most of their torches are NiMh compatible and should not prove a problem at all.

Anyhow I am going to be away for 8 months or so - just got over "The Net" and have two jobs working near 70 hours a week...

Doing product trials for Inox also on my torches - so far a epic food grade fully synthetic grease thats high temp and PTFE based.

 

[petr9999]

my t7 just lost its low mode, i used eneloops a couple of times, but dont know if that is the reason... Led Lenser has already serviced it though, with no problems

 

[wobble987]

Wobble - the Eneloops are going great!!! Led Lenser Australia said that most of their torches are NiMh compatible and should not prove a problem at all.

That is great to hear! i am still awaiting reply from them (LL Aus).
puzzlingly, the german ledlenser have forwarded me to their australian distributor (zen something or rather)
which hasn't answer my question. and also told me that the h14r is more powerful than the h14. so i am not sure yet.

Anyhow I am going to be away for 8 months or so - just got over "The Net" and have two jobs working near 70 hours a week...

that doesn't sound good. i wish you all the best. :(

Doing product trials for Inox also on my torches - so far a epic food grade fully synthetic grease thats high temp and PTFE based.

interesting... :ironic:

 

[Dirtbasher]

another question to throw to the fire....

what is the difference between h14 and h14r?
they are both powered by AA.
H14 can only take alkaline.
but H14R can takes both NiMH and std AA battery.
they both appear to be identical, with only differentiation being that the R comes with AA NiMH, and a plug in charger out of the box.

what makes the H14R able to take the NiMH, but the std H14 cannot? has it got something more apart from the said charger?

I had the H14, and used NiMh batteries, the only difference is the R version comes with a charger and circuit to recharge inside the light, they both are rated at 210Lumens, and they rip you off for a charger and 4 NiMh batteries, get the H14 only if you like the lens feature otherwise there are better head lamps out there.
My H14 had an offset lens or emitter, I took it back and the whole batch in their stock was the same, I was refunded my money, I also have an H7 which is my work and camping head lamp as I need the zoom and flood with lumen variable (lever) not electronic adjuster.
I'm not a fan of internal charging systems as it is a proprietary system that can fail, I've had to repair my P5R charger due to the tiny wire breaking inside the charger and it takes a rechargeable cell that is only a LEDLENSER stock item, cannot buy anywhere else!
However I do like their lens systems, so continue to review their new products when they do come out which isn't often , their recent F1 , I was impressed with as its their first IPX8 light, no zooming though but a good thrower for the size.

 

[wobble987]

i really like their adjustable lens feature. the light can be focused on the distance we want.
there is no need to turn on/off like black diamond. and i reckon the h14 is one of the coolest headlamp on sale currently.
i like the look of their design also. though i do see the point about the quality and durability issue people mentioned here.
unfortunately, our choices in australia is limited.

here is the response from led lenser:
The H14R will operate on 220 lumens in boost power while the H14 is on 210lumens and maximum running time for H14R is 25 hours in low power while just 13 hours for H14.

The torches that can accept the normal batteries will still operate on NiMH batteries. However we do not recommend you to use them due to these below reasons:
- The NiMH battery run in a lower voltage than the normal battery, therefore it will not function the SLT mode properly.
- The NiMH battery will make an inconstant running of voltage of the torch (up and down/high and low), therefore in instant or in the long run it might damage the unit.
does it make sense?