low amp LED regulators?

coolwaters

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low as in 20mA. im trying to eliminate the use of resistors. at DE they have those led regulators but there around 300mA. is there a place that sells regulators for 5mm leds or those superflux?
or a DIY regulator? constant current is what im looking for.
 
If you're not going for efficiency you could use a cheap radio shack constant current regulator (they regulate voltage to 5.5 volts or something) and hook up a resistor for constant current.
 
i was hoping to get at least 10 5mm LEDs to light up. or superflux.
the regulators at DE doesnt have resisters so is there a smaller constant current without one?
 
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http://www.reuk.co.uk/Using-The-LM317T-With-LED-Lighting.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LM317

Don't know about efficiency but it's cheap and easy.


Kev.

EDIT: You don't have to buy them from here, almost any electronic parts place should have them, you might even be able to get free samples from Texas, Fairchild or National Semiconductor if you ask nicely (National have buttons on their website for that very purpose, look here).
I just get them from RadioShack. www.kelvin.com has them significantly cheaper, but it's just so easy to hop over to RS. :)
 
Every LED current source I know of has at least one resistor in it to measure the current.

Mostly with higher power LEDs you can use a sense resistor that is very small in relation to the output power of the LED. Not so true with 20 mA LEDs, although of course you could make such a driver yourself, but it would cost more than the LEDs.

If you are aiming to avoid the efficiency loss of resistors then LM317, or even the improved NCP1117, is definitely not the way to go. You still end up losing at least 2.4 volts to the regulator, which could be a considerable percentage of your input voltage.

The most efficent solution is to use LED driver specifically designed for this application such as AS1109, TLC 5921 and so forth. TI, Maxim, and Austria have a wide range. Mostly these are drivers for 16 or 32 strings that work like shift registers. They are constant current linear regulators. Some also include PWM. They have integrated op-amp and transistor circuit for each LED output, with max current for the entire unit set by a single external resistor. I think they are pretty much only available in surface mount packages. Of course you will need a micro-controller as well in order to take advantage of these. The chips only cost about a dollar for 16 or 32 channels.

Of course this may be entirely too complicated for what you want to do. This is not the kind of thing you buy from Deal Extreme. You would have to make it yourself.
 
Every LED current source I know of has at least one resistor in it to measure the current.

Mostly with higher power LEDs you can use a sense resistor that is very small in relation to the output power of the LED. Not so true with 20 mA LEDs, although of course you could make such a driver yourself, but it would cost more than the LEDs.

If you are aiming to avoid the efficiency loss of resistors then LM317, or even the improved NCP1117, is definitely not the way to go. You still end up losing at least 2.4 volts to the regulator, which could be a considerable percentage of your input voltage.

The most efficent solution is to use LED driver specifically designed for this application such as AS1109, TLC 5921 and so forth. TI, Maxim, and Austria have a wide range. Mostly these are drivers for 16 or 32 strings that work like shift registers. They are constant current linear regulators. Some also include PWM. They have integrated op-amp and transistor circuit for each LED output, with max current for the entire unit set by a single external resistor. I think they are pretty much only available in surface mount packages. Of course you will need a micro-controller as well in order to take advantage of these. The chips only cost about a dollar for 16 or 32 channels.

Of course this may be entirely too complicated for what you want to do. This is not the kind of thing you buy from Deal Extreme. You would have to make it yourself.
I got the impression from post #1 that CC, not efficiency, was the goal here. Of course, having both would be very nice. :)
 
Yeah what's his source voltage max/min, and what's the LED string's forward voltage @20mA?

Supertex makes some constant-current linear regs for LEDs. However, being a small device, they cannot tolerate a high voltage drop due to the heat generated. Also there are limits on the voltage drop they can actually take without breakdown, most are designed for low voltage circuits IIRC.
 

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