M6 on the way

[Echo63]

I am currently waiting on my M6 from the marketplace, but I need a battery carrier for it.

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Norm

I will post some pics and thoughts on the M6 when it arrives, and after I get it running.

Looking forward to having the M series set (M3,M4,M6)

 

[angelofwar]

Congrats!!! Glad I still got mine...still sitting in the peli waitin' for the Zombies...awesome light to hold and use...even in stock form! Let us know what ya think when ya get it! It'll be a relic before too long, unfortunately.

I honestly never thought I'd own one, but I lucked out on trade...I know I coulda never afforded one at full price.

 

[tx101]

Congrats!!! Glad I still got mine...still sitting in the peli waitin' for the Zombies...awesome light to hold and use...even in stock form! Let us know what ya think when ya get it! It'll be a relic before too long, unfortunately.

I honestly never thought I'd own one, but I lucked out on trade...I know I coulda never afforded one at full price.

I doubt that ..... :)
With the high output bulbs avaliable for the M6, LEDs still cannot match them for
output and throw :D

 

[oldways]

M6 + PHd-M6 regulated pack +MN61=as good as it gets. It is sad to see SF stopping production of the incand M series.

 

[Echo63]

My lumens factory P7 is supposed to be brighter than my LF HO-M3T
Inside it is, but getting them to reach out across an oval, and the Incan wins every time.
Looking forward to IMR M3T and 2x18650 in the M6 turbohead

 

[HotWire]

Fivemega offers a wonderful 3 17670 pack that can be charged all at one. I own two of them for my 2 M6 lights. Brite, guilt-free lumens. If you use cr123 batteries it is very expensive to run.

 

[Fusion_m8]

Hi echo:

Some people reckon the best setup for an M6 is a FM bi-pin holder and overdriving a WA1185 with 3x17670s(18650s with a Megallenium body), I wouldn't know since I do not have that setup. What I reckon the best bang for buck is an IMR-M6 lamp running off 6xIMR123s in the stock MB20, the beam is brighter than the HO-M6R or MN21. Had lots of fun with that at the Clock Tower at Kings Park when I visited Perth in March.

 

[325addict]

I would definitely try to grab some 2X 18650 holders by Mdocod for your M6. You can stick to the standard MN20 lamp, it is excellent.
DO NOT USE the MN21 with this 2X 18650 battery setup!!

Then, when (or better: BEFORE) the lamp burns out, try to buy some MN-bipin adapters by FiveMega in combination with WA1274 bulbs. This is just as excellent as the MN20, with the difference in price for the bulbs...

 

[Echo63]

I would definitely try to grab some 2X 18650 holders by Mdocod for your M6. You can stick to the standard MN20 lamp, it is excellent.
DO NOT USE the MN21 with this 2X 18650 battery setup!!

Then, when (or better: BEFORE) the lamp burns out, try to buy some MN-bipin adapters by FiveMega in combination with WA1274 bulbs. This is just as excellent as the MN20, with the difference in price for the bulbs...

I managed to find one by posting a WTB over on the marketplace, it's on it's way, along with the M6 (still hasn't arrived yet, and I'm still running to the window anytime I hear a car pull up anywhere along the street)

I will be running the lumens factory M3T bulbs in it (HO-M3T and IMR-M3T) and a LF P7 head.
I may branch into other bulbs, and eventually a PHD-M6 battery pack.
(I do have the 18650 sitting around at the moment fully charged and waiting too, 17670 would require another wait for USPS to do it's thing, then Australia post to do the last little bit)

 

[Echo63]

The M6 just arrived, along with the 2x18650 adapter.
Chucked some batteries and a bulb in, and I have a new favorite torch.
It feels nice in my big hands, but isn't too large or heavy.

Ready to start the incandescent tribute challenge now

with a few friends

EDIT - a few thoughts after taking it out for a spin tonight.
The light feels like a tank, it is very solid, but very well balanced, it's also very smooth, and feels like it was made for my hand.
The beam is bright, clean and throws well, but I am not running the standard lamps or battery setup in it.

I wish I had bought one earlier, it would have been much better than the magcharger I used to carry when I was doing security work.

 

[HotWire]

Congratulations on your new guilt-free lumens M6! That is one light you will keep for years to come. I have M3s and M4s and find them equally enjoyable. Have fun!

 

[DimeRazorback]

How's the M4 going Echo63?

You should take some more pics of it! :D

 

[Echo63]

How's the M4 going Echo63?

You should take some more pics of it! :D

Great, although after the initial 2 hours of playing with the LOLA, my order from lighthound arrived, and it has been running either a HO-M3T or LF P7 head and 2x 17670 ever since.
Until the M6 arrived it was always in my bag when I did a night shift at work.
I love the tight throwy, artifact free beam of the Millenium Turbohead, although I am tempted to get nail bender to build be a nice neutral tinted led tower for it.
It's the other turbo head in the "M6 and friends" pic above.
I will grab some more pics of it next time I have my camera gear out.

 

[Monocrom]

My rechargeable set-up for the M6 consists of a 3x17670 battery-carrier by our own mdocod. (Not sure if those are still available currently.) And, the Lumens Factory HO-M6R lamp. This set-up is even brighter than the stock HOLA running on 6xCR123 primaries.

 

[Stephen Wallace]

Yes, I believe that mdocod still has stocks of the 3x17670 battery packs available.

 

[ASheep]

Echo63, that is one sweet pile of Surefires you have there!!! Good to hear of more people getting in on the M6 love!

I just received my first M6 today! Cheers to benm11 for that!

I'm still waiting on my lighthound order of some extra IMR cells, and a HO-M6R lamp. I couldn't fire it up because my stocks of CR123 primaries are running dangerously low, and I can't find 6 with the same charge state. So I got to testing. I found 2 Different ways which one can put four IMR16340 cells into the MB20 holder, to give roughly 8 volts. After checking CPF I found only one mention of this being done, and a couple of people saying it wasn't possible.

So I checked, rechecked, and checked again the different configs and voltages, they came out as between 8.2 and 7.9 volts (must be some internal resistance in that MB20). So I bit the bullet and chucked them in with the MN20 LOLA. Glorious incandescence blasted my retinas! It draws 2.12A off the fresh cells, which is in spec for both the cells and the lamp.
Runtime should only be less than 30 minutes, but its a way to play with this amazing light until my new LA arrives!
If I was really strapped for cells I could run it with only 2... but it's not necessary.

Does anyone else do this? Li-ions in 2s2p in the standard battery caddy? I'm assuming most people just go for one of mdocod or fivemega's 17670 or 18650 holders...

Cheers,
Alex

 

[angelofwar]

I did it asheep, using 2 primaries and a dummy to run the N1 bulb in there, and leaving the other battery slots empty, so you probably read my post from back in the day. All you have to do is mark the three ports on bottom and top (A, B, C for the bottom, and same for the top, etc.), and then check them using the "ohms" setting with multimeter, and then drawing a "map" to show which two bottom slots are connected to which top slot, and vice versa. If you label the slots, it's pretty easy. Hope this explanation helps a little more. So, yeah, you should be able to run a Lumens Factory RC compatible 3-cell bulb doing this, getting a little more lumens than a regular MN15. Or using two RCR's and a spacer, or three RCR's and a KX9T for more guilt free lumens, since the KX9T can run on 12-Volts (but only with a regular twisty, since the M3T two-stage can only handle 9-Volts. The M6 twisty should be able to handle 12 volts, being a "dumb" tail-cap.

Just a few ideas...

 

[Echo63]

Echo63, that is one sweet pile of Surefires you have there!!! Good to hear of more people getting in on the M6 love!

I just received my first M6 today! Cheers to benm11 for that!

I'm still waiting on my lighthound order of some extra IMR cells, and a HO-M6R lamp. I couldn't fire it up because my stocks of CR123 primaries are running dangerously low, and I can't find 6 with the same charge state. So I got to testing. I found 2 Different ways which one can put four IMR16340 cells into the MB20 holder, to give roughly 8 volts. After checking CPF I found only one mention of this being done, and a couple of people saying it wasn't possible.

So I checked, rechecked, and checked again the different configs and voltages, they came out as between 8.2 and 7.9 volts (must be some internal resistance in that MB20). So I bit the bullet and chucked them in with the MN20 LOLA. Glorious incandescence blasted my retinas! It draws 2.12A off the fresh cells, which is in spec for both the cells and the lamp.
Runtime should only be less than 30 minutes, but its a way to play with this amazing light until my new LA arrives!
If I was really strapped for cells I could run it with only 2... but it's not necessary.

Does anyone else do this? Li-ions in 2s2p in the standard battery caddy? I'm assuming most people just go for one of mdocod or fivemega's 17670 or 18650 holders...

Cheers,
Alex

Alex, that isn't all of them, that's just a few of the Incans, although the only one I have payed full Aussie retail for was the 6P (my first surefire, and gateway drug into the world of Lumens, CPF and an empty wallet)
One day I will have to dig up all of my sure fires, and grab a family pic.

When I got my M6 it didn't come with a battery carrier, just the body, tail cap, lanyard ring, and a turbo head (which was for sale separately from the same seller).
I had an IMR M-3T sitting around so I looked around for the battery carrier that would suit it.
I now have 4 lights, 4 body options, and 4 head options all running 2x lion rechargeables in an M head- I do intend getting a Phdm6 pack eventually too.

I haven't heard of anyone else running 2cells and a spacer in their M6, but if it working for you, I can't see any problems with it.
Congrats for finding a simple rechargeable solution for your M6, even if it is a stopgap measure till your new bulb and batteries arrive

 

[kelmo]

I got one scheduled to be delivered tomorrow. Its an old school Magnum light. I currently have a "sea cucumber." It's a M6 body with an M3 head running a MN10 LA. Good for 2+ hours of sag free incan light. JS estimated a runtime on this setup of about 2.5 hours. The MN10 is just a sawed off MN15. I gave my other M6 away as a house warming gift. My buddy was always coveting that light. I was left with 3 MN20 LAs and 2 MN21 LAs and no host. I jumped on a smoking deal on the Marketplace. Of course I also placed an order for 2 boxes of SF batteries that will be delivered tomorrow as well. I'll be ready for camping if it every stops snowing in the Sierras...

 

[oldways]

Kelmo the purple base mn20 coming with your M6 were known to explode in the head. I would keep it as a collector item and not run it.

The silver base MN21 will be ok to run.

Enjoy!!