the ppl get away with "mag bashing" because, when one just mentions the FACTS, noone can disagree.
personally, I think "bashing" refers to non-arguments, not to a technical diskussion
Sure, I personally HATE the MM-leds, because I had to wait THREE !!! years for them, and then they still feature the most basic errors, that were common on the very 1st high power led-lights and already solved (as I thought),
but I did not take my personal view into account for the given application.
* diameter is about the same (and bad when Your hands are bad - too small, my grandparents had atrithis, I know what I type about. At 70-75 there could be 1st signs, if one could get this)
* mm is less slippy, the knurling is the only thing the MM is better at.
* any of the MM led is about the size of an additional cell (unnecessary) longer
* on/off is unsure when in pocket (where size counts as well) and
* needs both hands (yesyes, I know, the mag-gods can do it with one hand, every time and under every condition, sure)
* single output and its runtime is something given, if batts are drained enough, light stops working, no emergency light
* light has to be focused, while the better light will flood an area after clicking on (MM will be a better thrower on full focus but there are real thrower around)
but hey, You all are not me, just get a MM-Led, why not
(still think: at Your prices get a fenix clone, or else the real one. Here there is no question, the MMs cost € 49,-- and 59,--)
PS: I have both MM-Led, just to let You know I am able to compare