minmag AA li-ion 14500 3.6v ?

[vic2367]

is it ok to put a 14500 li-ion rechargeable AA size 3.6v 800 mah in my fenix l2d-ce ? could my fenix handle that power ? also have a minimag AA with the terralux tle-5k i believe it is,,,not the newest version out right now,,,would a 14500 3.6 work with this set up ?

 

[vic2367]

happy easter everyone

 

[vic2367]

 

[Supernam]

Not a good idea in the Fenix. The L2Dce and L1Dce use the same head. People with the 1 AA L1Dce tried to use the LiIon cell in it, but the voltage is too high, which forces the light to be in turbo mode. When the voltage sags enough, then you regain the lower modes. This is with ONE cell. If you were to put 2 LiIons in your L2D, this would probably overdrive the light to the point of burning it out. I don't know about the mm though.

 

[vic2367]

i was thinking of putting 1 14500 with a dummy cell in the fenix,,,that would be 3.6v...

 

[cratz2]

I 'think' a single 14500 cell would be fine in the Fenix... a bit brighter with less runtime than with a single NiMH cell or a single primary Lithium cell... A LOT less runtime than with two NiMHs or primary Lithiums.

With the TerraLux... I'm not as sure but my general rule is that if there is only a minimal increase in brightness going to LiIon, then the LED will probably be safe but we have no idea the design of the board. There may be components that are just barely ablle to handle the 2.4-3.0V of 2 alkaline cells.

My general question on the Fenix is... why would you want to? I mean, with the L2D, you get excellent brightness and crazy runtime on NiMH cells or primary Lithium cells. I doubt brightness will increase much and runtime will REALLY suffer.

 

[vic2367]

thanks cratz ,,,i think your right about the run times and brightness,,,

 

[Effulgence]

2x 14500 minimag = TL-3 + Auroralite kit

It's bright and has burnt a hole in my favorite 5.11 pants. Still love them both. There needs to be a better LED upgrade/sandwich available.

 

[adnj]

You won't get any advantage with the 14500 cells in either light because you can only use 1 cell in the L2D or the MiniMag. Two cells will cause damage.


The 14500 will work fine in an L1D.

 

[Lobo]

You won't get any advantage with the 14500 cells in either light because you can only use 1 cell in the L2D or the MiniMag. Two cells will cause damage.


The 14500 will work fine in an L1D.

Well, he mentioned a dummy cell...

Does anyone know if the L2D with ONE 14500 would actually be brighter than it's regular setup? Something with the current regulation hindering it to be completely direct driven? Heard the L0D CE (PWM) actually is brighter on rechargable lithium than the L1D/L2D.

 

[cratz2]

I've never tried a 14500 with a dummy cell in an L2D, but I'd imagine there would be a VERY slight increase in brightness vs two alkaline cells. Maybe 10% to 20%. Most people cannot detect a 10% increase or decrease in brightness with to lights held side to side let alone trying one, then 5 mintues later trying the other one.

I still think that most folks would appreciate the probably 5 times (or more!) greater runtime over the 10% increase in brightness.

Now, on lights like the L1D, C-LE etc, then yeah, the difference in brightness is pretty frickin' amazing. Plus since you have mulitple levels, you can use the lower settings for most tasks and have the super crazy bright available when 'needed'.

 

[Ledean]

Check out the "Baby Magzilla" by Bimmerboy (it is at the bottom)

It is a minimag running 2x 14670 .. better than 2x14500

2x 14500 minimag = TL-3 + Auroralite kit

It's bright and has burnt a hole in my favorite 5.11 pants. Still love them both. There needs to be a better LED upgrade/sandwich available.

 

[Effulgence]

Oooo... BabyMagzilla... but it uses 14670s... it will be another battery I have to purchase to make...

Good thing I'm only running the TL-3 and not the H1499s, looks like I'd have to treat my hotwires with more caution.

 

[2xTrinity]

i was thinking of putting 1 14500 with a dummy cell in the fenix,,,that would be 3.6v...

One idea I think would be interesting would be two 14500 cells stacked on top of one another, but insulated, and with wires (wrapped similar to protected battery packs) so that it the two batteries would actually be in parallel.

 

[NIGHTGUY]

Also keep in mind the stock MM/TLE reflector is plastic. Driving the TLE-5 with a just one 14500 melts the silver coating off the reflector of my MiniMiniMag.

 

[Ledean]

Minimag cut down to use 14670 li-ion

 

[jasonsmaglites]

so many lithium ion batteries?
could someone explain a few of the different ones to me.
"enlighten" me

 

[cratz2]

The first two numbers is the size of the cell in diameter, the second two is the lenght. Both in millimeters. Check out AW's for sale thread for more than you will ever care to know about LiIon sizing.

10440s are AAA sized
14500s are AA sized
17670 are about the size of two CR123As
18650s are also about the size of two CR123As, but are slightly larger diameter but hold a LOT more juice.