My New EagleTac(s) and M20 vs T20C2 (warning... picture heavy)

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Update 2 (2009-08-01): Olight M20 Comparison shots
Update 1: Outdoor shot

this is not a review, but rather my impression of the new EagleTac lights that I received today, so no runtime graph nor lux rating... :grin2: but you do get to see some photos... will add outdoor shots once it gets dark... another 10 hours :candle:

First, the package:
Package01.jpg
Package02.jpg

yep... both Cool and Neutral White for T20C2 (the cool white version was provided by Philightsophy for my comparison, thanks man...) and T100C2 MKII.

Let's take a look at what's included in the T20C2 + RGB Kit
Package03.jpg

Nylon holster, spare O-rings, EagleTac Silicon Grease, GiTD switch boot, paracord lanyard, filter kit (red, green, blue, diffuser), and the light itself.

On to the parts that make up the flashlight
Assembly01.jpg

from left, head assembly, body, and tail-cap. notice the green pointer from the photo? this is where you unscrew to change the reflector and, in my case, clean the dirty lens... :rant:

here is what it looks like after disassembly
Assembly02.jpg

there is an o-ring at the thread and another at the lens (for shock absorbent?)

here is the head shot
Assembly03.jpg


and LED close-up
LED.jpg


and another head shot from the other side
Assembly04.jpg


the tail-cap
Assembly05.jpg


the battery tube
Assembly07.jpg

notice how excessively lube is the tube? this is very common among all Eagletac lights I received so far. :poke: clean-up time...

inside view of the battery tube
Assembly06.jpg


now for some size comparisons
LightCompare01.jpg

compare with some common battery sizes

LightCompare02.jpg

compare with Oligh M20, from left, Cool White T20C2 (with tail-standing tail-cap), Neutral White T20C2, Olight M20 Premium R2

and their head shot
LightCompare03.jpg


here are the two different reflector for T20C2
Reflector.jpg


and here is the Cool White version tail-standing with diffuser
TailStandwDiffuser.jpg


some shots of the cool filter kit. note that all these were taken under fluorescent lighting.
FilterRed.jpg

FilterGreen.jpg

FilterBlue.jpg

FilterDiffuser.jpg


if you are using the filter kit, it's best to stick to the SMO reflector as it gives that extra throw, the diffuser is one of the best I've seen.

some UI problems that I encounter is the activation of the strobe from tail-cap actually interfere with momentary on function.
- good luck trying to send out S.O.S. signals as it activates strobe every alternate press (register within a second or two)
- if you activate strobe by "clicking" it, you need to double-click to get back to constant on ==> first click to off, second click to constant on

the mode switching is actually pretty cool as it ramps up or down, ramping works for twisting to get to low mode and reverse as well.

now on to T100C2...
a physical comparison of the original T100C2 and T100C2 MKII
T100OldvsNew01.jpg


T100OldvsNew02.jpg

notice the enhanced version of the bezel (circled in green)? EagleTac ain't no joking when they say they will strenghten the bezel.

this new version has a cooler tint, on general mode, it appears greenish while on high, it appears towards the blue side of the spectrum, compare to the slightly warmer tint of the original T100C2.

Update 1:
here goes some outdoor shots (all shots are taken using Canon S5 IS using f/3.2, Exp: 1 sec., ISO-100, distance from tree top, approx. 10 meters)

Olight M20 as control and comparison
OlightM20.jpg


T20C2 Cool White SMO Reflector
T20C.jpg


T20C2 Neutral White SMO Reflector
T20W.jpg


T10LC2 Neutral White OP Reflector for comparison with T20C2 Neutral White
T10LC2w.jpg


Comparing SMO and OP Reflector of Cool White
T20C_SMOvsOP.jpg


T20C2 Cool White with Red Filter
T20C_SMO_R.jpg


T20C2 Cool White with Green Filter
T20C_SMO_G.jpg


T20C2 Cool White with Blue Filter
T20C_SMO_B.jpg


Without diffuser on left, with diffuser on right. I believe the diffuser is included in basic version too.
T20C_Diffuser.jpg


My RGB kit includes the OP reflector as goodies from Philightsophy, so saves me the headache to choose between SMO and OP. Tail-stand tail-cap is an optional accessory and can be use with T100C2.

And here we have shots from T100C2 Original vs Mark II
T100.jpg
T100MKII.jpg


it may not be able to tell very clearly which among the T20C2, T100C2, T100C2MKII is the brightest if you put all these beam shots side-by-side, but using the highly acclaimed bio-technologically scientific method: Ceiling Bounce, the T20C2 does give out more brightness. :grin2:

Update 2 (2009-08-01): Olight M20 Comparison shots

first, a comparison beam shot of M20 vs T20 (both using OP) -- M20 on left, T20C2 on right
M20vsT20_OP.jpg


all pictures posted below always have the Olight M20 Premium R2 on right, EagleTac T20C2 on left.
both lights head standing
T20vsM20_01.jpg


tail-cap
T20vsM20_02.jpg


inside view of the tail-cap
T20vsM20_09.jpg

i much prefer the contact pin (or is it a cap) of the Olight M20, it's more battery friendly. :poke: Surefire, are you listening?

body tube
T20vsM20_03.jpg


threading work at the tube (head position)
T20vsM20_04.jpg

despite the square threading (?) on the EagleTac T20C2, Olight M20 still feels smoother. :confused:

body/battery tube view from tail end
T20vsM20_05.jpg


and the tube view from head
T20vsM20_06.jpg


the head assembly
T20vsM20_07.jpg


the contact point inside the head
T20vsM20_08.jpg

note that the new AW 2600 flat top doesn't work on EagleTac T20C2 unless you attach a small magnet either at the flashlight head contact or the battery positive end to make the contact.

the crenelated bezel
T20vsM20_10.jpg


and here we have the battery magazine
T20vsM20_11.jpg


and here's together with an earlier version of the battery magazine
T20vsM20_12.jpg

the green circled shows the sanding work in the earlier version that came with T100C2, while the arrow points to the position where it has a larger diameter than the rest of the battery magazine tube. I believe it's basically the same tube where ealier version tries to sand it to make the whole tube diameter even (but failed), and the later just doesn't bother!!! FWIW, the earlier version of this battery tube can fit into Olight M20 snugly, while the newer version stuck at the cap gap area.

overall, the built quality of Olight M20 Premium R2 "feels" better, and that includes the bundled accessories, while EagleTac T20C2 offers "better value" with the included diffuser and RGB Kit. The availability of neutral white in T20C2 is just awesome imo. :nana:

perhaps a Full Stainless Steel version at the same price point will make it the ultimate EDC choice of all time :whistle: and EagleTac really needs to "kill" the strobe "bug". :)
 
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Re: My New EagleTac(s) and some (warning... picture heavy)

Wow the T20C2 is such a really nice looking light... but 300 lumens?:thinking:
 
Re: My New EagleTac(s) and some (warning... picture heavy)

Wow the T20C2 is such a really nice looking light... but 300 lumens?:thinking:

That's what I thought when I first saw the details of the light... I wouldn't really trust that rating.
 
Re: My New EagleTac(s) and some (warning... picture heavy)

so when on. you twist tight and loose to get low. if you shut it off and turn it back on is it low again or high or general depending if it was left tight or loose?
if it is low when off then back on(former), do you twist and loose to get back to the turbo/general?

they probably shouldve left out the strobe. momentary should always just be momentary light. or make it ridiculously hard to get into like .25 sec double click.
 
Re: My New EagleTac(s) and some (warning... picture heavy)

it is high or low depending on if it was left tight or loose, it doesn't remembers the low.
 
Re: My New EagleTac(s) and some (warning... picture heavy)

it is high or low depending on if it was left tight or loose, it doesn't remembers the low.

i see. so definitely not to save the night vision but still more flexible than the older 2 modes setup. a step in the right direction.

it's certainly a nice looking light and eagletac has an awesome quality and efficiency.
 
Re: My New EagleTac(s) and some (warning... picture heavy)

300 is emitter lumens.
Should have about 260-270 OTF, which is still pretty darn good.
Rookie, so is it much brighter than the MkII?
 
Re: My New EagleTac(s) and some (warning... picture heavy)

Check out the runtime graphs. On 18650 it is NOT regulated on high. Output is an immediate downward slope from the get go.


Amazing the OP reflectors are "popping" up everywhere. There must be a secret Accessory password or secret squirrel handshake to obtain these items.
 
Re: My New EagleTac(s) and some (warning... picture heavy)

strinq: its right on ET's website.

cool beamshots! the T20c2 looks promising!
 
Re: My New EagleTac(s) and some (warning... picture heavy)

Definitely looks brighter than the M20 in the pics. If I like it I'll buy the RGB model in neutral white next. I really shouldn't buy any more flashlights for a while because I'm really intrigued by the Quark MC-E model. I love the MC-E because I prefer floody light. With the Eagletac w diffuser I hope to get the best of both (thrower and flood) but of course the MC-E would be much brighter on flood.
 
Re: My New EagleTac(s) and some (warning... picture heavy)

Wow!

It is suprisingly brighter than the M20!

:thumbsup:
 

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