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I thought I'd start this thread to allow an open discussion of where I keep my head buried in the sand.

I will openly discuss information here if I can.

You might influence the design and help with defining the goals, specifications and eventually production product.

You can ask, discuss, offer opinions and even off topic discussions here.

My priorities are #1 the microprocessor PWM design.

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Product: PWM Microprocessor

Current Status:
The PCB was just ordered for the first prototype. This board design has not been fully tested in a toner transfer environment so it carries a high risk of not working. The raw boards should be back next Monday or Tues. There are some parts on there I cannot load due to their small size. I will have to have a local CM hand solder these before I can test them.

Description:
The current prototype is 0.75" round. It contains a microprocessor and components for a Buck or step down switching regulator. Low Power components and carefully designed drivers should attain 90% efficiency driving a 1W Luxeon. Minimum input voltage is around 4.5V. Maximum will be around 16V but probably spec'd at around 14V allowing usage in dirty 12V DC only applications with care.

Reverse battery protection. None.

Addtional features. Microprocessor can monitor battery voltage and output voltage. The micoprocessor has the capability of using these voltage reading to perform tasks based on the voltage of these two. Things that could be implemented might be:

Li-ION low battery protection.

No load protaction: If the output voltage rises above a certain pre-defined voltage, shut down the converter. Go into a pulse restart and tick the output once every second or so to see if a load has been attached.

Input switch toggle. A special non-contact switch is on the board. Many features can be implemented around this switch.
The main initial feature will be a two stage power level.

The default on will be a low dim but usefull light. Toggling the switch or pressing the switch will turn it on to full brightness. This is not a discussable topic. There are zillions of combinations, levels of brightness. The initial release target specifications has already been decided on and is has been cast in concrete.

Components are two sided. The backside has a anode contact and will require a solder blob to build up some thickness so that the battery anode contact won't hit any of the SMT backside components.

Target: Maximum drive output: 1A

FIrwware code status:
Prelinary code has been written and tested that held constant current to the load on a previous toner transfer board. No other code has been written. The code effort will still take several days to several weeks to finish.

Other notes: There are SMT pads on the backside that allow a bed of nails fixture to program the uC (microprocesor) in circuit. This is a special note in that if I ever release this to allow people to fiddle with the code, they would need the special fixture I'm developing to program the board. I ordered the fixture board as well at the same time as this board. I expect both boards to come back next week.


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Proto:
High efficient step down for the 12V Solarc HID regulator.

This steps down 12V-20V down to 12V to maitain constant voltage to the Solarc HID regulator.

Status: A toner transfer proto of only the converter portion has been built and tested with over 90% efficiency. It will be tested soon and the next phase will be determined after that. I'm not the lead on this. This is a fellow CPF'er and if he wants to jump in and discuss it here that would be up to that CPF'er. It's possible we will only build one of these for him and that might be the end of this.

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Proto:
Constant Current Load.

This board is an adjustable constant current load. I have toner transfered one board and have it working.

I will be using this in conjuction with the LabJack to do some battery testing. I will be posting the graphs or data of the current and voltage of different batteries in the future.

This board could be usefull for characterizing load capacity of batteries to match the load of the battery with the proper converter board and LED. Maximizing all these parameters will yield the most light for any given package.

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Project Next Gen badboy:

I had grandios plans on a new design with more power and more efficiency for Badboy.

I built two versions during the xmas break and both faild to stabilize. This project has been abandoned.
 
Wow! Very cool /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbsup.gif

Well, for now, I have a few questions for PWM Microprocessor.
<ul type="square">[*]What is the special non-contact switch?
[*]0.75" round means it doesn't fit to eCan. Is it final? Or are you going to shrink? If you cannot shrink, do you think it's feasible to separate the board to two 0.55" boards?
[*]How can we change the brightness level? Is this programmed in the firmware?
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The PWM is targeted to fit where the Ecan goes. There will be no encasement. The OD of the ECan is 0.75 and so the PWM has a ground ring that if mounted correctly will make contact with the battery tube lip. This should work similar to many current configurations.

Brightness levels will be configured in firware.

Special non-contact switch. Confidential for now.
 
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ooh ohh. Hotlips-C ID is 19mm (.075") /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif Any chance of 1A+ output current?
 
Wayne,

Will the PWM work off of 4AA NiMH? You mention 4.5V minimum input, but is that what's actually fixed, or is the input voltage some fixed value above Vf? If so, maybe an "H" would work well.
 
MM Lite only changes the IC on the regular MM. I don't consider this a product in development. BTW: The boards were run Friday. I should be getting converter boards this Wed or so. Modules assembly will be scheduled after that.


1A+. Possibly. It will depend on how the circuit works. Right now I have a tentative goal of 1A. That's good for the initial project. When I get it running I will characterize it and spec if for the full range which could be as high as 2A.

Thanks for the interest.

Wayne
 
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dat2zip said:
MM Lite only changes the IC on the regular MM. I don't consider this a product in development. BTW: The boards were run Friday. I should be getting converter boards this Wed or so. Modules assembly will be scheduled after that.

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Thanks for the interest.

Wayne

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I can't wait for the MM Lite modules, especially if you might build some sandwiches with them. I've got one last R2H that's just begging for a MM Lite sandwich...

Jon
 
oh, i dont mean to go off topic, but is the madmax lite the same as the long runtime madmax? i am REALLY interested in some long-run madmaxes!

on topic: Wayne, you are a visionary--i am sure getting this stuff together is quite a challenge--from goal to design to production to testing, etc.

i gave a MM+ to my 64 year old closet flashaholic--his face was priceless!!! he thinks it is the coolest gift ever!

Bob
 
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dat2zip said:


I had grandios plans on a new design with more power and more efficiency for Badboy.

I built two versions during the xmas break and both faild to stabilize. This project has been abandoned.



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My actual Favourite would be a Sandwich with HD Lux, maybe LUX3, current 750 mA, flat regulation, and higher efficiency. OK, u can't always get what you want... A pity that the new BB design failed.

Apart from runtime and heat, the BB750LUX3 is absolutely great /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 
Adjustable constant current regulator would be good for a RGB Tri-lens project, to keep each color at the right current for duration of batteries, so there is no color shift as they drain.

Also good for people who change their mind on how bright/runtime they want...
 
Wayne,

The multi-stage current is great, but please, please make the maximum current capability more than 1A, preferably user selectable or at least orderable. 1.5A would be nice, 2A a bonus for thrash-heads. I'm sure 3W LED's will be the favour in the future over 1W today.

Chris
 
This sounds like really very interesting stuff.

did you use the same LT1618 on the flunked next gen badboys?

What do you think about user-selectable li-ion discharge protection, via a computer jumper? I would not want to have a light solely for bare li-ions without the option to use primaries - better then to use pilas.
 
Any update, especially on PWM microprocessor?

Now I have Arc4 and I'm impressed. I really want to have the similar functionality in McLux packages.
 
Burnt_Retinas,

The basic design is scalable. Using different parts, one could make a 40A constant current regulator possibly. The tradeoff will be size vs functionality as usual.

AilSnail,

The flunked next gen badboys used a different IC from a different MFG.

As it turns out, I am looking into the TI series of ICs for a possible next gen version. I have sent out for a small run of boards. Stay tuned.

kj,

I've spent time on and off on the PWM board. There are parts on there that are too small for me to put on. I'm having extreme difficulty in getting the parts soldered on. I've taken a side step and doing the design using alternate bigger SMT parts for development purposes. Just finished toner xfering a board last night. Loaded the key parts and I was able to communicate to the microprocessor.

Next step is to test and evaluate the FET drivers. This is the key crucial part of the design to high efficiency. If this driver does what I think it will do, I expect some very high efficiencies out of this design.

I've got a customer project I'm working on right now and will use the PWM board for development of that project first. Since it is similar I can use it for prototyping.

Wayne
 
Thank you for the updates.

BTW, are you going to disclose what processor you use? As a software enginner, I hope you to open basic source codes and allow us to customize. I'm not so familiar with PIC programming, though /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 
kj,

I'm trying to work out the logistics of sharing, yet, keeping it confidential.

I'm not worried yet. Nothing works... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Wayne
 
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