new tac light *Sunfire/Sunbrite thread*

Josh

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i was just looking for good prices for an m3, when i found these new tac lights at UWS. thay are called "sun bright" <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" /> lights and don't have good run times or looks. go check them out at UWS and try to get to the price list for surefire lights...and see what you get <img border="0" title="" alt="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" src="images/icons/mad.gif" /> .
 

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Re: new tac light

I emailed their webmaster about this. I hope is is only a dumb mistake. The surefire link at the bottom of the page is the same way.
John
 

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Re: new tac light

After an extensive test and evaluation of all Tactical Flashlights,
We have chosen SUNBRITE to replace the Sure-Fire line.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I imagine this is why the Sure-Fire links lead to Sunbrite lights. I also imagine that the folks over at Sure-Fire would not appreciate this at all (appears to have potential legal action written all over it).

Pat
 

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Re: new tac light

They got pi@@ed off at SF's price increase and dropped them.
 

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Re: new tac light

Dana, That's not the way I heard it.

There are many clones and copies coming out of Asia etc. I don't get the impression that SureFire are too concerned. They are moving on with new technology, no products, whilst companies copy products SureFire designed many years ago.

SureFire have always been motivated to provide the best for the best. Notice the copies of the Millennium Series? Neither do I.

If anyone actually buys one of these sunbright flashlights, I'd be interested in just how good they are. They could be very good. I'm not sure how good UWS is. No-one appears to be using them.

Al
 

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Re: new tac light

That's not the way I heard it.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Not in my words but they did have a statement at their web site about this.
I'm not sure how good UWS is. No-one appears to be using them.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I have seen few comments about them and they were not praise. One can get better prices and service elsewhere.
About the Sunbright's, I to would be interested to hear from someone else (not me) how good or bad they are. Surefire has nothing to worry about, I'm sure.
 

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Very interesting. Ok, I'll try one. I haven't wasted any money lately.
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Re: new tac light

The Sunbrite/Sunfire lights sorta look like these http://www.flashlight-hweilung.com/police.htm . I wonder if they are? This Taiwan company appears to make them for Smith & Wesson and Galls. Smith & Wesson didn't get rave reviews on CPF. I'd buy one if they were maybe 1/2 the cost of Surefire, but not if they are roughly the same cost.
Big Tex, have you gotten yours yet?
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With the Scorpion (and Legend LX) filling in the low end of the tac lite market, and Surefire investing in new technology, in my opinion these import copiers are just wasting their time and money. Their rechargeables don't look very good either in terms of run time or output compared to the SL and Stinger series. The AA version seems like just a Mini Mag clone.

For $55 why not just pay a little more and get a 6P or $10 less for a G2?
 

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I turned on a "Sunfire" - "Sunbrite" at thier booth in Germany - GPEC.

Looks great on the outside, then you see the beam, if you want to call it that. I was expecting at least something worthwhile. NOT.

Do yourself a favor, don't waste your time on these particular knockoffs.
 

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Originally posted by Kirk:
The Sunbrite/Sunfire lights sorta look like these http://www.flashlight-hweilung.com/police.htm . I wonder if they are? This Taiwan company appears to make them for Smith & Wesson and Galls. Smith & Wesson didn't get rave reviews on CPF. I'd buy one if they were maybe 1/2 the cost of Surefire, but not if they are roughly the same cost.
Big Tex, have you gotten yours yet?
Kirk
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I went to this website, in particular one of these as well as the extra bulb/keychain & holster accessory looks indeed exactly like the Smith & Wesson "Magnum Force/Galls". I purchased one of the S&Ws for my 15 year old son...wonder why I didn't keep it? I've got a Surefire E2e-HA!

There was a fellow selling the S&W Magnum Forces on eBay (he threw in a S&W AA 'minimag' copy with the deal) which included holster, 2-123 batteries, & extra bulb NIB...all for $49. It's "okay"...but...
 
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Re: new tac light

On ocassion, former colleaques, associates, acqaintenances, sometimes [outright] strangers ask my opinion about incandescent lights that use 2 CR123 lithium batteries.

A few that I have evaluated appear on that webpage: http://www.flashlight-hweilung.com/police.htm.

The XP6A2-2 heavy-duty police spotlight is known as the Surelight as marketed by an e-tailer on the right coast. I gave this product fair marks for the reliable switch. It functioned each and every time I activated the switch. Functionality is very important to me. The aesthetics are fair as well. With standard anodizing in black and mild knurling, it carries well in a pocket but better in a pouch. Without a lockout switch, it can accidentally activate. The projected spot (aka the "beam") is rife with circles and dark spots. If that is important to some, this will be a disappointment. I carried it for several weeks and would not hesitate to do so exclusively as long as I carried it in a sheath or pouch AND my current favorite did not exist.

The XU6A2-1 heavy-duty police spotlight is also known as the H.A.L.O. as marketed Galls and Smith & Wesson . I gave this product POOR marks. The switch did not function reliably in the sample that I was provided. To be fair, I tried a second sample and it was the same, poorly-operating switch as the first. Be careful of this one! I gave it high marks for aesthetics. Not usually concerned with such, I like its form factor. The rubber sleeves aided the grip and does not destroy coat or trouser pockets. Conversely, those same rubber sleeves would drag on the inside of a pouch or sheath upon 'presentation.' The sheer number of components that comprise the lamp assembly is inordinately large. Too many parts make for more stuff that can break. I absolutely will not carry this one.

The XU6A2-2 heavy-duty police spotlight is very similar to the XU6A2-1 except that it has the simpler lamp assembly as the XP6A2-2. That is a big improvement, but there is still that unreliable switch! I'll pass on this one, too.

The XU6A2-3 heavy-duty police spotlight is exactly like the XU6A2-1 except for the added rubber sleeve that is purportedly to facilitate a Rogers Grip when used with a handgun. It is a good idea that works when the switch functions. I'll pass on this one as well.

The XB6A2 heavy-duty police spotlight is the same as the XU6A2-1,2,& 3 but with an improved switch switch anmd a different lamp assembly. I did not have a chance to look closer at the lamp assembly. Like its siblings, the reflector is smooth. The improved switch makes this variant the best of the family. Like the Surelight, I would carry it as well because it functions reliably.

The Sunbrite SUNFIRE 206-LI is better than all of the above for the folowing reasons.

1. The switch is a single, machined aluminum component with an o-ring to facilitate greater moisture resistance. It also has a cavity that will allow storage of a spare bulb. The switch does not have a rubber outer membrane that deteriorates over time. It has functioned each time I activated it.

2. The knurling is aggresive enought to allow a good grip, but subtle enough that it doesn't destroy pockets. The knurling increment and style is similar to that of the Streamlight 3-LED light.

3. The reflector is of the stochastic, "orange peel" variety so it allows for a smooth, projected spot.

4. The lamp assembly is focusable and allows for a tight spot that is brighter than the P60 lamp assembly. A tighter spot allows for greater reach.

5. The dual O-rings at the lamp end of the battery compartment allows for a tight fit that will not inadvertently adjust out of the setting.

6. The 'lip' at the switch end of the battery compartment (along with the knurling) allows for a more secure grip.

The anodizing is likely Type II Standard. The aesthetics is pleasing to my my eyes. (I don't ordinarily care about looks but his one bears a semblance to my 9N. I guess it is the silver rings that they have in common.

Instead of just handling them once or twice and forming an instant opinion, I thoroughly evaluated each of these products over several weeks and sometimes months before I rendered a conclusion. I evaluated them for what they are and not compared to a implied "standard." I've traveled extensively and have seen many lights used by others that would make me cringe. Yet, I have seen these sub-quality (by our lofty standards) used quite effectively in the course of administering very serious tasks. I find myself saying that I would not be caught dead using some of these products so I somehow imagine myself using them to their full capacity to stay alive. Surprisingly, they serve adequately. In retrospect, I refuse to look contemptuously at them; knowing full well that I could invariably end up using them were I to find myself in the part of the world in which I do not have my favorites and these are the only choice.
 

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Re: new tac light

Kirk-yeah, I got one and have been planning to take some pics and comment but got busy with other matters. Deal went off without a hitch. Nice light. I agree with #581's comments. After I play with it more, I'll have additional comments but I'm happy with the deal.
 

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Re: new tac light

These were at the shot show. They felt ...ummm light. They don't have that solid feel that SF's do. The beams were ok. About on par with UKE. But it was hard to tell in a lit area.

www.sunbrite.com
 

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Re: new tac light

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......Instead of just handling them once or twice and forming an instant opinion, I thoroughly evaluated each of these products over several weeks and sometimes months before I rendered a conclusion. I evaluated them for what they are and not compared to a implied "standard." I've traveled extensively and have seen many lights used by others that would make me cringe. Yet, I have seen these sub-quality (by our lofty standards) used quite effectively in the course of administering very serious tasks. I find myself saying that I would not be caught dead using some of these products so I somehow imagine myself using them to their full capacity to stay alive. Surprisingly, they serve adequately. In retrospect, I refuse to look contemptuously at them; knowing full well that I could invariably end up using them were I to find myself in the part of the world in which I do not have my favorites and these are the only choice.

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KT,

Thanks for these valuable, "real world" tests and comments.

Brightnorm
 

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Re: new tac light

I got ripped off by U.W.S. last year, they never delivered a knife that I paid for.
 

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I have a Sunbright light. I came with out a charger. When I tried to get one I think I got quoted $65.00 but I could be wrong. The outside of the light seemed to be streamlite in quality, when I turned it on, it was quite bright but a sickening looking beam. It was very ugly. Once the Factory Charge on the battery was gone, I never used it again. I would not buy one again. It is lower grade than what I like to use.
 
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I have used the Sunbrite SUNFIRE 206-LI on a few occassions. I would recommend it to those that, like me, are not concerned about the so-called beam quality. The "beam" (the projected spot) on this product can be focused so that it somewhat resembles the spot from a Streamlight Ultrastinger. It is reliable: this being the primary reason that I recommend it.
 
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