No Mus, no Fuss Rechargeables

[NE450No2]

Now that I am living in the country my wife is using a flashlight a lot more, ie nightly.

She was fussing about using up batteries.
Well I found out she had somehow started using a G2 with a P61 bulb.
No wonder everytime she went out the back door to check on the animals she came back in the dark.

So I think I need a quality rechargeable, that does not take a "Flashlight Engineer" to operate and maintain.

The wife can run "her" batteries through the charger with out blowing anything up.

Also, I prefer an incandescent bulb for out door use where searching for animals is one of the rimary uses for the light.

I have a friend that has a 10X at his cabin. I have used it, but it is bigger/heavier than we need for everynight use.

Also since I am a Sure Fire convert, I am thinking about either the 8NX or the 9AN, with a couple of extra batteries.



Might even get one for each of us, as one charger would do for both, and then I would be using "free" lumens too. :thumbsup:

I lean toward the 9AN as I find a flashlight with a low setting to be very useful.

So what have the experiences with these two lights been?


CORRECTION I MISTYPED IT WAS A G2 SHE WAS USING.

 

[Mjolnir]

From what I have seen, the surefire rechargeable lights are a bit behind the times, and have some issues. You would probably be better off getting a light that can use NiMH cells, which are commonly available and much easier for people to use than lithium ion cells.

 

[leukos]

You can use two 17500 Li-ions in that G3 with the stock P90 bulb and you'll have a fantastic rechargeable light.

You'll need two of these: http://www.lighthound.com/AW-17500-P...tery_p_99.html

And one of these: http://www.lighthound.com/Ultrafire-...er_p_2279.html

And you won't ever need to look back! :thumbsup:

 

[apete2]

magcharger stock, or if she didnt care about the run time just using the batteries, magcharger 5761

 

[NE450No2]

You can use two 17500 Li-ions in that G3 with the stock P90 bulb and you'll have a fantastic rechargeable light.

You'll need two of these: http://www.lighthound.com/AW-17500-P...tery_p_99.html

And one of these: http://www.lighthound.com/Ultrafire-...er_p_2279.html

And you won't ever need to look back! :thumbsup:

That looks interesting.
What would be the runtime be?

I bet it would work with the P60L as well?

And you could always drop in 123 Primarys if necessary.

Several years ago I had the SF kit that turned a regular P60 into a rechargeable. It had a tube extender.

It also had the advantage of removing the extender and going back to two 123 Primarys.

It is packed away somewhere.

 

[Dioni]

Take advantage of the topic, I like to know if the LF HO-9L bulb run on 2x17500. :thinking:

I didn't see anything about it in Mdocod MDs guide.

My friend is planning to use it with G3 + Serapf D36 mini turbo head + li-ion 2x17500.

Thanks in advance! :thumbsup:

 

[xeonsaga88]

Take advantage of the topic, I like to know if the LF HO-9L bulb run on 2x17500. :thinking:

I didn't see anything about it in Mdocod MDs guide.

My friend is planning to use it with G3 + Serapf D36 mini turbo head + li-ion 2x17500.

Thanks in advance! :thumbsup:

Eo-9L is a 7.2V, 2.4A lamp , so it should work. However you may be on the batteries limit of 2C (depending on what is the capacity of your cell).

 

[Dioni]

Eo-9L is a 7.2V, 2.4A lamp , so it should work. However you may be on the batteries limit of 2C (depending on what is the capacity of your cell).

Do you know about HO-9L data?

I think that EO-9L wouldn't work no way 'cause this "2c" limit that you mentioned. The 17500 batteries has about 2.2ah limit discharge.

So, I thought on HO-9L that must has less discharge [1.9ah???] but I haven't read nothing about it. He wants use the Serapf Mini TH on his G3.

Cheers, Dioni.

 

[leukos]

NE450No2,

Runtime will be around 45 minutes, but those batteries can be recharged up to 500 times. The only thing your wife should know is not to leave the batteries dead, when the batteries are low or cut out, she should charge them back up immediately.

If you want more runtime, there are some fantastic aftermarket lamps made by Lumens Factory. The ES-9 will run for about 70 minutes on a pair of 17500's and it will seem brighter than the P90: http://www.lighthound.com/Lumens-Fa...ssembly-for-SureFire-C-P-Z-Series_p_1013.html

 

[RyanA]

Take a look at some of the rechargeables Streamlight offers. Many use NiMH batteries. The Strion is a good choice, compact, rugged and reliable.

 

[NE450No2]

Sorry Gents it was a G2 she was using it was a typo.

I can see the advantages of rechargables around the civilized world, ie still in the power grid.
But for the fiels I prefer 123 primaries.

I do have a couple of brand new G2's.

Are there any rechargable batteries that will work with the standard P60 or P60L bulb?

If not;
What would be the best way to turn them into rechargeables, 60 to 80 lumens with 2 to 3 hours of run time?

Best charger?

 

[xeonsaga88]

Do you know about HO-9L data?

I think that EO-9L wouldn't work no way 'cause this "2c" limit that you mentioned. The 17500 batteries has about 2.2ah limit discharge.

So, I thought on HO-9L that must has less discharge [1.9ah???] but I haven't read nothing about it. He wants use the Serapf Mini TH on his G3.

Cheers, Dioni.

http://www.lumensfactory.com/d36_series_specification.htm

you could use a HO-9L if you do not mind a slightly lower output and it is drawing only 2A well withing the specs of your battery.

 

[BIGLOU]

Stick with the Surefire KR1 kit for the G2 and get an extra B65 battery. The P61 (120 incan lumens) is great but sucks up the CR123s very quick and it gets expensive. I found this kit is very reliable and use it with my P60L (80 led lumens) and I use the hell out of my light and have not had to charge the battery but a couple times. Try ebay I have see a couple kits on there a few times. As for the 8AX/8NX Commander (110 lumens) or the 9AN (140 lumens) remember there are no upgrade bulbs for these. GL.

 

[NE450No2]

Gentlemen I continue to thank you for the info.

BIGLOU I still think I have the tube extender and the charger from the "past". I will see if I can find it and then get some new batteries. That is probably the quickest, cheappest way toget the wife into a rechargeable.

For what she is using it for a P60 or a P60L would give her enough light.

 

[NE450No2]

Leukos

Your solution with the G3 has merit as well.
With your soultion or Big Lou's solution we could go back to Primary 123,s if the situation called for it, with out changing bulbs.

 

[yellow]

... same with the other thread, imho You are a die hard incan guy, not open to a change (even when You would gain) and not to be switched from that, bad for You


I have started with 6R in the late 80', changed to 8X, then very quickly to 9N - which I think is the best incan SureFire offers.
1st of all: rechargeable! Anything else is junk for a "use"-light, imho.
Good output to size/weight ratio, 1.5 hours runtime on full (with homemade battery sticks), low level with 2nd bulb, ...
somehow I think it did not get the respect it deserves.

Typed that, in April 2007 I modded my 6P shelf queen to 18650 Li-Ion cell and a cree led (P4) and it immediately changed the lights I use.
The 9N is brighter, but that "brown" output lets me feel the battery is already depleted, the low output capabilities of the led are unmatched and the full power is near to the 9Ns main.
Then there is the size difference and that the small, modded 6P runs for 2+ hours on full.

I use it for everything, from hiking, easy caveing to mtb-trail riding, the key is the size (and the output, of course).
It simply can be packed every time and does not count in the package.
As I was able to get the led color I wanted, I perfectly like the tint (totally neutral white)


You did not specify how big the light for Your wife should be, nor the runtime, nor if it is open field or brush, ...
but I tend to lend out these here, when someones superduper-10-20W-Halogen-bike-light dies after 1 hour of biking:
http://www.lighthound.com/XTAR-CREE-LED-18650-Rechargeable-Flashlight_p_2381.html
... sure they are not the brightest, tint is a matter of luck, but feature loooong runtime at a power the 6P incan also has.
and are much brighter than a light that dies from exhausted batteries.
(and small & light enough to bring a few, to help the newbie-nightriders out)


as to the G2s: why not try a led insert?
Count that as an "emergency" low power, long running alternative. Sure the plastic body is not ideal, but ...
When You have it, You might even change Your mind to topics like led, rechargeable, Li-Ion, ...


PS: just realized that B65 tip. In my opinion: junk!!!
that 6R has seen some use in the beginning but ONE use of the 8X let it become a shelf queen instantly (thats why I had the 6P to be modded for the Li-Ion and led). No runtime and weak output. Not worth any coin to spend.
8X, or better 9N, are just a bit bigger but much brighter and longer runtime and ANY better 18650 led light surpasses all three.
That technology is outdated for 20 years

 

[NE450No2]

Yellow

I appreciate your relpy. Good information.

It is not that I hate LED's, it is just that when you are looking for dangerous or wounded animals, or dangerous men, I find Incandescent bulbs superior.

I have just bought a P60L and put it in a G2. I LIKE it for General use.

I plan to get more of those bulbs.

Baised on your post I am going to take a hard look at the 9N for
"house use for the wife" I might get one for me too, as I have found that a flashlight with a low and a high is very handy.

I am really not a "modder", and I have found over the years that Sure Fire "stuff" performs very good, and lasts for a long time.

I have used a BUNCH of different flashlights over the years, but NONE have held together like the SF.

With the exception of Petzl headlights. Sure Fire is the ONLY Illumination Tool I have bought since the first 6P in 1986.

 

[ampdude]

A Surefire G2 with a P90 bulb and two AW IMR16340's is very useful, I use it every night at work and it fits in my shirt pocket along with a couple of extra batteries. Runtime conservation is important with this setup. Otherwise, I'd go with a 2 x 18500 body. It's one cell longer, overall bigger and won't fit in a shirt pocket, but the runtime is better than twice as good.

I recommend a one cell extender and spare bulbs + lithium primaries on reserve for emergencies if you go with the G2/6P/C2 type setup.

 

[Monocrom]

Plenty of good rechargeable lights out there. From what you've posted, sounds like lithium rechargeable cells would not be a good fit for your wife. Those cells can be very useful, but a thorough understandings of the potential risks involved is necessary. I'd stick with more traditional rechargeable lights.

The 9AN Commander is a good light. Just keep in mind that the lower setting gives good flood, while the higher one is geared more for throw. Surefire's rechargeables are a bit dated. And Surefire has made it clear they don't plan on spending any effort on R&D for their inca. lineup anytime in the near future. But the 9AN is a good model.

 

[KiwiMark]

sounds like lithium rechargeable cells would not be a good fit for your wife. Those cells can be very useful, but a thorough understandings of the potential risks involved is necessary.

I wouldn't worry too much about the risks if we are talking about protected Li-ion cells. Plenty of people own, use & recharge cell phones with no idea of the risks with Li-ion batteries - usually without incident. Plenty of people also use notebook computers. There are also many iPod owners out there. Most people don't even know that they use and recharge Li-ion batteries and wouldn't care if they did know.

A good automatic charger and some protected Li-ion batteries are no real problem. The only thing to watch out for is if you use 14500 cells, make sure you don't accidentally put them in the TV remote or anything else that can run on 1.5V AA cells but not 3.7V Li-ion cells.