The start of this post came long ago when from this thread's post about missing terminations and hot batteries. Like a capacitor, the slower the charge rate (i.e. current), the slower the voltage changes. The "negative delta-V" based chargers rely on the slope information to decide when to stop charging. So after a bit of experimentation, I think I can explain why larger batteries charged at smaller currents have issues related to stopping charge...it is all tied up in their like behaviour to a capacitor.
Summary:
For 1000 mA pulsed current chargers (i.e. 0.5C) using "negative delta-V" termination, the rate of change of the battery voltage during the off/measuring portion (see second post) of the pulse should be at least 1mV/sec over twenty consecutive measurements and/or twenty seconds.
Background:
In another thread discussing/summarizing some of the issues with NiMh chargers/batteries, the charging profile (i.e. change of voltage with time during charging) of 2 different NiMh batteries was found to be quite different given the same charging current of 1600mA.
This lead me making some measurements of batteries that did not terminate and those that terminated well.
Method:
Observations:
The experiments did not have the availability of a programmable charger/discharger. A 4 ohm battery was used for discharge purposes by shorting the battery with it for 1 minute. The charge rates for AA batteries is 1000mA and for AAA, it is 600mA. The AAA battery was charged at 1000mA by jumpering the battery to the AA connections.
When the batteries did not terminate (both Sanyo AAA @600mA and Energizer AA @ 1000mA), the voltages would increase by 4mV over about 8 to 16 seconds seconds and then suddently drop by 4mV. This negative drop did not occur for good batteries that would increase by this amount over 3 seconds (i.e. 1mV/sec). I think the charger averages several consecurtive measurements (say 20) to determinte the state of the battery. In the middle of the charge , the voltage profile is fairly flat and slowly rising (near zero slope), however, measuring over a longer interval with several measurements can help the charger distinguish this from the "zero slope" region for "negative delta-V" type chargers. It is necessary for that charger to recognize this end of charge "zero slope" region so that it can get ready for the next stage which is to find the "negative slope" termination signal. So the termination signal can be thought of as a two stage process where the "zero slope" signal is first found and generated and then allows the charger to enter a new state where the "negative slope" and final signal is generated to stop the charge. The problem with batteries that miss termination is that a false zero slope condition is maintained, indefinitely, by small rising voltages over about ten cycles, followed by a sudden, drop. The average seems to a "zero slope".
Referring to the graph, the non-terminating behaviour for the Energizer would have the graph stretched out to 16 intervals before reaching 4mV. The pulse would then drop from the 1.504 steady value to a value of 1.500 vollts and this pattern would repeat itself.
When the charge rate of the 900mA-hr battery was increased to 1000mA (i.e. 1.11C), the voltage rate was increased to about 1mV/sec and the non-monotonocity dissapeared and the battery terminated in 3 minutes.
Conclusion:
Based upon my few tests, can the slope of the voltage be used and related to the standard recommendation of charging at somewhere between 0.5C and 1.0C ? Yes...with several caveats:
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Summary:
For 1000 mA pulsed current chargers (i.e. 0.5C) using "negative delta-V" termination, the rate of change of the battery voltage during the off/measuring portion (see second post) of the pulse should be at least 1mV/sec over twenty consecutive measurements and/or twenty seconds.
Background:
In another thread discussing/summarizing some of the issues with NiMh chargers/batteries, the charging profile (i.e. change of voltage with time during charging) of 2 different NiMh batteries was found to be quite different given the same charging current of 1600mA.
This lead me making some measurements of batteries that did not terminate and those that terminated well.
Method:
- Partially discharge a fully charge battery for 1 minute at about 200mA. For a charger with a decent full charge detection circuit, the charger should terminate with about 3 minutes, max, with vibrant batteries.
- Place battery in pulse charger and monitor the voltage with a digital multimeter that updates at a rate of at least 3 readings/second (most DMM).
- The charger used has a period of 1 second pulse with 50% duty cycle at 2amps. This averages out to a current of about 1 amp The DMM will give 3 readings for every pulse of the charger. Note the lowest voltage and record.
Observations:
- A 1600 mA-hr Failsafe NiMh battery was charged at 1000mA with the following charge profile:
- In the charging profile, we see the battery voltage spike during the 2A current pulse. During the off interval when the current is zero, the voltage settles to a steady state value. Note this value and also the next settled value. This is shown as "delta V" in the graph. Record "delta_V" for at least 20 consecutive pulses.
- 1600mA-hr Failsafe AA results:
Notes: voltage increases monotonically
delta_V: 1mV difference
Termination: Termination in 3 minutes - 2650mA-hr Energizer AA results:
Notes: voltage differences not monotonic.
Sometimes negative.
delta_V: 0.25mV difference
Termination: No Termination in 1/2 hour - 900mA-hr Sanyo AAA results @ 600mA
Notes: voltage differences are sometimes negative
delta_V: 0.5mV difference
Termination: No Termination in 1/2 hour - 900mA-hr Sanyo AAA results @1000 mA
Notes: voltage differences are lways increasing
delta_V: > 1mV/sec
Termination: In 3 minutes
The experiments did not have the availability of a programmable charger/discharger. A 4 ohm battery was used for discharge purposes by shorting the battery with it for 1 minute. The charge rates for AA batteries is 1000mA and for AAA, it is 600mA. The AAA battery was charged at 1000mA by jumpering the battery to the AA connections.
When the batteries did not terminate (both Sanyo AAA @600mA and Energizer AA @ 1000mA), the voltages would increase by 4mV over about 8 to 16 seconds seconds and then suddently drop by 4mV. This negative drop did not occur for good batteries that would increase by this amount over 3 seconds (i.e. 1mV/sec). I think the charger averages several consecurtive measurements (say 20) to determinte the state of the battery. In the middle of the charge , the voltage profile is fairly flat and slowly rising (near zero slope), however, measuring over a longer interval with several measurements can help the charger distinguish this from the "zero slope" region for "negative delta-V" type chargers. It is necessary for that charger to recognize this end of charge "zero slope" region so that it can get ready for the next stage which is to find the "negative slope" termination signal. So the termination signal can be thought of as a two stage process where the "zero slope" signal is first found and generated and then allows the charger to enter a new state where the "negative slope" and final signal is generated to stop the charge. The problem with batteries that miss termination is that a false zero slope condition is maintained, indefinitely, by small rising voltages over about ten cycles, followed by a sudden, drop. The average seems to a "zero slope".
Referring to the graph, the non-terminating behaviour for the Energizer would have the graph stretched out to 16 intervals before reaching 4mV. The pulse would then drop from the 1.504 steady value to a value of 1.500 vollts and this pattern would repeat itself.
When the charge rate of the 900mA-hr battery was increased to 1000mA (i.e. 1.11C), the voltage rate was increased to about 1mV/sec and the non-monotonocity dissapeared and the battery terminated in 3 minutes.
Conclusion:
- The 1000mA charge rate delivered over 1 second gives a charge of Q=I*t=1A * 1 sec = 1 Coulomb
- For a 1mV/sec voltage charge rate, the effective capacitance is given by:
Delta_V_rate = I/Ceff
This implies that
Ceff=I/Delta_V_rate
For the Failsafe 1600mA-hr battery:
Ceff=1 amp/1mV/sec =1000 Farads - For larger capacity batteries, the Ceff scales rougly by the capacity, but not always, as in the casee of the Energizer battery. Ceff_energizer=4000 Farads.
To achieve, the Delta_V_rate of 1mV/sec, the charge rate would need to be increased up 4 amps!!!
Based upon my few tests, can the slope of the voltage be used and related to the standard recommendation of charging at somewhere between 0.5C and 1.0C ? Yes...with several caveats:
- Not all NiMh batteries and their chemistries are the same as my well terminating batteries
- I cannot determine the discharge capacity of my batteries with my charger
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%1-hour Charge-Rate Slope Notes
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0.625 CR 1.0 mV/sec Failsafe used as reference
0.5 CR 0.8 mV/sec based on min recommended rate
1.0 CR 1.6 mV/sec based on max recommended rate
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