P7 or MC-E with Mr20 for penta M@g?

Greg G

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I can't decided which emitter to use. This is a M@g host, custom head, 5 emitters using McR20 reflectors.

I have in stock some P7's, but if I open up the reflectors for them then they are married forever. I could buy some MC-E's and not have to mod the reflectors at all (I think).

What would you guys do?


(This is just a 'show off" light. NASCAR host. Crazy bright, but won't run it for long periods.)
 
If you haven't already ordered the MC-Es, I'd get them in 5A tint from the following group buy:

http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=211450

This tint is pretty amazing -- roughly in between cool white LEDs and incans. You'll sacrifice a few (hundred) lumens, but IMO the result is worth it. This thread shows a comparison of the tints.



5 MC-Es sounds quite impressive, what are you planning to use for a battery pack?

Right now I'm running my Triple MC-E 2C Mag with these $7 LiIons from DX. 3 warm white MC-Es in direct drive (6 parallel strings of two dice each), with every possible source of resistance in the light removed. At roughly 5 amps load through most of the runtime, driving 3 MC-Es is the most two of these cells can safely deliver.

For 5 MC-Es you might be able to get away with two of the LiIon D-Cells from Kaidomain in a 2D direct drive, or 4 LiIon C-cells with 4-series wiring of the LED dice.

Also, one suggestion if you're planning to go direct drive is when you wire strings of LEDs in series, each LED die in the string should be from a DIFFERENT MC-E package, instead of connecting all four dice on each individual MC-E in series with each other. This will make a thermal runaway situation less likely when direct driving LEDs in parallel.

When one parallel LED (or entire parallel string of LEDs) heats up more than its neighbors, its Vf will drop, causing it to draw more current, and heat up further, leading to a particular runaway situation at worst and uneven brightness at best. This could happen if you have say all four of the dice on each MC-E connected in series to each other, then all 5 of your MC-Es wired in paralel.

If instead you wire your LED strings so that they are composed of one die each from four DIFFERENT MC-Es, there won't be any problems if one of the MC-E packages heats up unevenly. Instead of shifting the Vf of one LED string dramatically and creating a possible runaway situation, it will shift the Vf of 4/5ths of your strings only very slightly.
 
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I'm going to run the string off 4 of AW's C Li-Ions and 3 Blue Sharks in parallel.

For this light, I'm not too worried about CRI and all that jazz. I just want something stupid bright to impress the unwashed masses. :naughty:

This build is going under the header "stoopid silly". :twothumbs

Maybe I'll install a Remora on the "mother" Shark and I can actually use it for something, and expect some runtime out of it. :D
 
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