Panasonic Battery Could Power House for 1 Week

I see no real use for us fortunate ones with a steady AC supply.

And i cant see no enviromental benefit either.

If i use AC then effiency is 100%, on the other hand if i convert AC to DC and then DC to AC there must be losses in form of heat in those prosesses :thumbsdow
 
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If electricity needed to charge it comes from coal/natural gas, then it's not green.
 
For most people, there probably wouldn't be much benefit.

Obviously, for a house with no continuous AC supply, this would be great - allowing storage of solar or wind power for use when it's not available.

Even for houses that are connected to AC all the time, it would be great for the times when that power is cut for whatever reason - probably something that would be of more value to a business though. Even in other times, it would allow houses to be connected to cheaper off peak power - even with the inherent inefficiencies, it could still greatly reduce the average household electricity bill.

If enough homes were set up to use off peak power this way, it would help reduce the need for building new power plants by smoothing out the power demands over each 24 hour period.
 
Actually, there are many uses for this. Your average home uses around 1000kw of power each month, but I imagine most everyone here uses way more power than that, that is just a national average used in the utiliity industry. Your friendly local power company, or not so friendly, has to keep plants warmed up and ready to generate power 24/7 to cover the maximum projected load during any 12-24 hour period. Not even a gas turbine can be turned on and generate power to the grid in less than 30 minutes from a cold start. Keeping standby generation hot and ready wastes a lot of energy, but is necessary so your lights go on when you flip a switch, your hvac works when you need it to, etc... If these were in large scale use, your utility company could idle some of their standby plants if these were charging overnight from unused capacity on the grid, and supply power during peak times on the grid, negating the need to keep so much spinning reserve hot and ready to generate power. Since virtually all spinning reserve is fossil, this is where the "green" comes in. For a small number of people and growing, this would be a huge improvement over lead acid storage, in efficiency, safety, maintenance, and undoubtedly cost in the long run. There are lots of people that actually generate enough power on average to run their own home. Small hydro, solar, wind. The problem is they don't generate 24/7 except for small hydro, and they do not generate consistently, again except for small hydro. A 1,500 watt gas generator running 24/7 produces enough electricity to run the utility average house at 1000kw/h per month, but obviously will not run your home at such a small output. With small scale generation (whether wind, solar or hydro) At times when the power consumption of your home is smaller than what you produce, you can charge storage for later use when you are using more power. People currently use lead acid storage for this, and the smart ones stay connected to the grid because during peak hours, like a hot summer day, your storage+production won't cut it with your peak power usage. But you can easily cut your electricity bill by 80% if you can produce just 1,500 watts of power per hour on a 24/7 basis. It really would not work well with small solar, you would need to generate significantly more than your homes peak usage of power while the sun is up so you have excess for charging and use during lower demand times. But their would still be an efficiency gain if your installation was big enough. Unfortunately, solar is very expensive, even with all the taxpayer money be thrown at it in subsidies. Initial costs of a solar set up require at least 10 years to recover cost in electricity savings, and that is best case like you live in the desert of Arizona or somewhere else with 95%+ days of sunlight. A friend of mine in Va has a small hydro setup that generally produces around 3,000 watts. He has net metering with the power company and some months he has a credit and some months he owes. According to him, counting maintenance, electric bills etc... he pays in the neighborhood of 500 dollars a year to be connected to the power company. I bet with a more efficient storage than his small lead acid setup, he could come out getting paid every year by the power company for the privilege of being connected to the grid.
 
I think the issue here is the cost of the battery. No doubt it could be used to store cheap off peak electricity, or electricity from non constant sources such as solar and wind, but I bet it costs a fortune. And how long does it last?

Electric cars are not as cheap as some might think due to the short lifetime of batteries.
 
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