PT Attitude/Impact or Lightwave 2000/2100?

[Bill.H]

Does anyone have 2 or more of these 4? I'm looking for something small that'll take some cheap and easily obtainable batteries (meaning not 123s) but is stronger than my Arc AAA or Infinity.
Or is there something else you'd recommend instead of these (I'm also considering an Opalec but I already have one).
Thanx

 

[Bill.H]

Newbie screwup ;(

Can a moderator please move the prior message to the LED forum for me, and delete this one.

My apologies. Won't happen again (I hope!!!!)

Sorry

 

[webley445]

I have all three, love them all, get one of each!
Seriously though, any special criteria? The attitude is good because it is sturdy and very easily carried. I just plain like the LW 2000, semms a bit more brighter to me with the 4leds, am unsure if it can run on lithiums though, but I like it also due to its size. Offers a firm grasp for my hands and like it in the back pocket, due to its length it will reach all the way down in and [to me] offers better security from falling out while still being able to be drawn out quickly. Plus it too is sturdy.

I have the impact also, again sturdy, but it puts out a spot and beam more like a traditional incan flashlight would, as opposed to the flood light effect from the other two.

I say check out various member sites for reviews and impressions [remember that your personal opinion is whats important in the end]. You could post in the B/S/T forum to see if anyone has some used ones for sale. That is how I got my 2 attitudes, the LW, and the Impact. And they are in practically new condition. Personally I'd say start with the attitude [you'll love it IMO].

 

[Empath]

Moved to the LED forum

 

[pedalinbob]

i have both the attitude and impact 2.

they are both nice. the impact 2 i am just a bit diappointed with, because it uses a projector lens to throw the light. this results in a bright and narrow spot which i find to be less useful than a broader flood. i prefer a beam with as few artifacts as possible.

the attitude is one of my favorite lights. it is light, small, reasonably bright and inexpensive. it fits nicely in a light jacket pocket, or even in a deep front pants pocket.
it is a tough little light.

it is also waterproof. the beam is a broad flood with a mild central hotspot. the beam is pretty smooth. it also has a very long runtime.

it doesnt seem very bright at first, but once your eyes are dark adapted, it is very bright (too bright to read with!). try it around a dark house/shed/garage--it lights up a large area nicely.

mine is much more blue than say a white luxeon, but it sill is very nice.

as an aside, i have ordered an inretech, and will give my impressions soon. it should be much brighter/whiter, but will also be heavier, longer and more expensive. i intend to try a mcflood in it--should make for a great beam! (the nx05 should provide longer throw, if that is what you are after)

also, my inretech/minimag combo will use lithiums, which should not only be very bright, but will have good cold resistance, be lighter, and have a VERY long runtime. not bad for about $30 total.

look at Roy's runtime graphs in the reviews section (he didnt test the inretech with lithiums, but the curve should be similar to the reactor with lithiums, which is amazingly long for an unregulated light)

my EDC light is the infinity ultra with li battery. bright little bugger, small, light, long runtime, tough, can use li for cold resistance.
next comes the attitude (which MAY be replaced by the inretech mod) which resides in my coat pocket or glovebox.

and finally is the tec-40 with kpr113 bulb. not quite as bright as the stock bulb, but it has a MUCH smoother beam. should have a nice long runtime, and be pretty reliable. the bulbs are inexpensive too. a word about the beam: the tec 40 has the power of a 2 or 3d mag, in a much smaller package...and the beam is FAR nicer...plus, i can use lithiums! a remarkably nice yet inexpensive light!

i will never use a stock mag again.

have fun with your search!

Bob

 

[Rebus]

I have the Attitude and the
LW 2000. Both are great lights.
One you might consider instead
of the Attitude is the Streamlight
Clipmate. It is 3leds, 3 AAA's and
it is smaller and brighter than
the Attitude. It also comes with
a headharness so it can be used
hands free. A little shorter runtime
is probably all you give up.

-Rebus

 

[webley445]

Get one of each !!!

 

[ikendu]

Originally posted by pedalinbob:
the attitude is one of my favorite lights. it is light, small, reasonably bright and inexpensive. it fits nicely in a light jacket pocket, or even in a deep front pants pocket.
it is a tough little light.

it is also waterproof. the beam is a broad flood with a mild central hotspot. the beam is pretty smooth. it also has a very long runtime.

it doesnt seem very bright at first, but once your eyes are dark adapted, it is very bright (too bright to read with!). try it around a dark house/shed/garage--it lights up a large area nicely.

mine is much more blue than say a white luxeon, but it sill is very nice.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I REALLY agree with all of this! Attitude is my favorite light!
I have a Luxeon light (BadBoy in Maglite) but it is the Attitude that get's used!

 

[MichiganMan]

Originally posted by webley445:
I just plain like the LW 2000, semms a bit more brighter to me with the 4leds, am unsure if it can run on lithiums though, but I like it also due to its size. Offers a firm grasp for my hands and like it in the back pocket, due to its length it will reach all the way down in and [to me] offers better security from falling out while still being able to be drawn out quickly. Plus it too is sturdy.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I have the 2100 and it runs beautifully on lithiums (as I suspect the 2000 also does) I carry it during nighttime activities with folks that carry standard minimags. I always get a kick out of watching them struggle as the night progresses with their rapidly diminishing amber beams, and I'm still on the first set of batteries I installed when I got the light last year.

Its quite easily transported in a jeans pocket and the rubberized housing is both satisfying to hold and handy for keeping it in your pocket.

 

[Bill.H]

Thanks, guys! Good info.

I think I'll get the Attitude, then the LW 2100, then maybe the Impact.

Webley445:

Get one of each !!!

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">That's a given

It's just a question of the order to purchase them in.

 

[avusblue]

I second the vote for the LW 2100. It's what's got me introduced to LED lights (months before I ever found CPF!) and it's still one of my favorite all-around lights. I love the overall size and shape, grippable rubber coating, and the feel and action of the switch. I, too, am on the original set of batteries and it's still brighter than the Opalec Newbeam'ed Gaglite I thought would replace it.

Go for it -- personally, the LW2100 would be the first one I'd get, not second.

Dave

 

[StoneDog]

Hey, I'd say grab a mini-mag and one of the Dat2zip's BadBoy sandwiches. My BB500 just came today and I'm very impressed. It might be a bit more expensive but it's one heck of a nice little package.

Jon

 

[avusblue]

Not a bad idea, but to me, one of the appealing things about the 2100 is that it's NOT Gaglite based. A high tech, polymer body with modern styling. And it's only about $30. A real value.

Thats not to say that sandwiches don't have a place. . . I just like the LW2100 for what it is.

 

[StoneDog]

Fair enough, but I just can't stop grinning about the sandwich (not it's host).

I'd go with the Lightwave then because of the button switch vs the PT's rotating heads.

 

[MichiganMan]

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention how much I prefer the switch over the twist the head method. The Lightwaves could stand some regulation IMO and a reflector around the leds, ("Every photon's sacred, every photon's great, if a photon's wasted, etc"

) but other than that they are definitive (and underrated) examples of what is great about LED technology: extremely long life, dependable, durable and waterproof. Their affordable price (if you shop around even a little) makes them a great introductory LED light. The 2100 loaded with lithiums lives in my wife's car when I'm not using it because I know it will be there for her if she needs it, even if she needs it for a three hour vehicular breakdown.

You can find a 2100 on Ebay for $19-$25 easily. Thats where I got both my 2100 and 4000. Here's one on Ebay that as I write this is still $19.99 (Note, not an endorsement, I don't know this seller)

 

[Ninja]

Originally posted by StoneDog:
PT's rotating heads.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">My PT Attitudes' rotating head got to the point of grinding plastic into powder that ends up on the inside of the lens... now it's very hard to twist on & off after 3 months of heavy use.

 

[Bill.H]

OK, now you've convinced me to get the LW 2100 FIRST, then the Attitude.

The last few posts mentioned the twist head on the Attitude, does anyone think a little silicone lube might help avoid a repeat of Ninja's problem with it?

 

[Wits' End]

Originally posted by Ninja:
My PT Attitudes' rotating head got to the point of grinding plastic into powder that ends up on the inside of the lens... now it's very hard to twist on & off after 3 months of heavy use.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Don't forget the Attitude has a lifetime warranty, you can send it back for replacement.
What do the LW's have for a warranty?

 

[MichiganMan]

Originally posted by Wits' End:
Originally posted by Ninja:
Don't forget the Attitude has a lifetime warranty, you can send it back for replacement.
What do the LW's have for a warranty?

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Three years, including the LEDS, (well, duh, I would HOPE they were included) but I don't anticipate either my 4000 or 2100 failing. Craig was pretty impressed with them in his reviews: LW4000 and LW 2100 To sum up their durability he said of the 4000:

Whacking it against a steel rod a number of times didn't leave a mark, not even on areas of the body not covered by rubber. This may very well be the best built plastic flashlight that has ever been made & sold to the general public.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">And the 2100 is basically just a small clone of the 4000. I suppose its possible that the button switch could fail, but I've not heard of it happening yet. Lightwave describes it as an "Industrial grade switch, rated for 10,000 on-off operations" I think you're safer in plastic flashlights once you move away from using torsion to turn it on and off. If there ever are problems, this is usually where they pop up, which very well may be why Lightwave moved away from them.

Now, I don't have an Attitude so I certainly can't say how it would compare. However if you were to say, send me one...

 

[ikendu]

Originally posted by Bill.H:
...twist head...Attitude, does anyone think a little silicone lube might help avoid a repeat of Ninja's problem [twist head grinding the plastic]

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Hmmm. I've owned my PT Attitude for 3 months now and have used it pretty much every day with no problems of this kind. In fact, I'd say it basically looks and operates like brand new. I don't think I could be happier with it.

Maybe Ninja's got some sand or other grit in the threads?