Purchasing a Polarion X1

[tonkem]

I think I am very close to deciding between the x1 and the Ph40 Polarion HID lights.

Please advise where would be the best place to purchase them. I know that 4sevens.com has a discount of 8% but they don't stock the lights, and Polarion of course sells them. I also noticed that Opticsplanet.net has some PH40's on ebay for retail, but have the option to make offer, anyone have any history with opticsplanet.net? do they offer cpf discounts?

Anything else you would like to share regarding the X1 vs the PH40 would be appreciated. Besides the obvious difference in price, why should I go for the PH40? I am leaning toward the X1 because of it's size and cost. Please help

I appreciate your help.

PS, anyone live in North Texas own a Polarion that I might be able to see and handle before pulling the trigger? Never hurts to ask. PM me if you do.

Tony

 

[Sampolainen]

Re: Polarion Helios PH40/X1 for sale in Europe to US

I don't know for sure about U.S policies concerning taxing... But it probably is similar as elsewhere. So if customs gets interested in your shipment you'd need to pay taxes when you get it. Here in Finland it would be 22% of the price you paid originally for the product. It could very well raise total costs close to buying domestic. And then there's the case of possibly needing warranty repairs which could become complicated in case you need to ship internationally. Not to mention time consuming and perhaps costly because of shipping. One needs to carefully think if saving around $100 is justification enough to order abroad.

I'm not trying to scare you here I often get stuff internationally, mostly because it's not available here. And sometimes because it might be 100% more expensive domestically

 

[tonkem]

Re: Polarion Helios PH40/X1 for sale in Europe to US

Any suggestions of where to buy, at a price that is less than retail?

Thanks for your help.

Tony

 

[Patriot]

4Sevens with their CPF discount is where I could go. Also, I think the X1 offers more value. The P-series offers a hard anodized finish and slightly better water resistance but both are submersible.

 

[tab665]

i ended up ordering my X-1 from 4sevens a few months ago. the discount code was definitly something i could not pass up. i emailed 4sevens and requested to get mine in the silver finish. there are two advantages of the ph40 over the X-1. the first is that the X-1 is type II ano, while the PH40 has HA. and secondly, the PH40 seems to be much more grip friendly around the battery tube. then again, the X-1 was designed to be a handle carry light. i cant make any other compairisons than that since i dont own a PH40. i will say that i am extremely impressed with my X-1. its the perfect balance of throw and spill for me; it lights up my backyard in one quick turn of the ring. and you cant beat the instant on/off that all polarions have.

 

[tonkem]

Anybody have any in hand shots of the x1? I have seen many pics of the PH40 in the hand, but only seen the x1 held by the handle.

I am leaning toward the Ph40 for its ergonomics.

Thanks again.

Tony

 

[Patriot]

I am leaning toward the Ph40 for its ergonomics.

Merry Christmas!!!


Check member Vee73's site for a picture. I'm not sure if it exists or not, but the U2 is very close in size to the X1 so use that for a reference.

I used the handle on the PH40 and PH50 probably 95% of the time. The only time that I grasp the light body is when I have my hand secured underneath the handle, for holding above shoulder height and over my head for some reason. The rest of the time I hold by the handle. I think Polarion knew this is how the light worked ergonomically and why they didn't hesitate to make a short, fat body. As for hand holding the body on the X1, you could do it, but then you have to ask the question, 'why would you want to?' The light is so perfectly balanced it becomes a one or two finger light for hours at a time.

 

[tonkem]

Merry Christmas!!!


Check member Vee73's site for a picture. I'm not sure if it exists or not, but the U2 is very close in size to the X1 so use that for a reference.

I used the handle on the PH40 and PH50 probably 95% of the time. The only time that I grasp the light body is when I have my hand secured underneath the handle, for holding above shoulder height and over my head for some reason. The rest of the time I hold by the handle. I think Polarion knew this is how the light worked ergonomically and why they didn't hesitate to make a short, fat body. As for hand holding the body on the X1, you could do it, but then you have to ask the question, 'why would you want to?' The light is so perfectly balanced it becomes a one or two finger light for hours at a time.

Which of the PH40 or X1 do you use most? By reading the forums, it looks like you are the expert I am just not wanting to buy one and then say, I should have got the other, you know The extra $400 is not the big of a deal, so I would want the one that is the better light.

Thanks for your help.

Tony

 

[tonkem]

Merry Christmas!!!


Check member Vee73's site for a picture. I'm not sure if it exists or not, but the U2 is very close in size to the X1 so use that for a reference.

I used the handle on the PH40 and PH50 probably 95% of the time. The only time that I grasp the light body is when I have my hand secured underneath the handle, for holding above shoulder height and over my head for some reason. The rest of the time I hold by the handle. I think Polarion knew this is how the light worked ergonomically and why they didn't hesitate to make a short, fat body. As for hand holding the body on the X1, you could do it, but then you have to ask the question, 'why would you want to?' The light is so perfectly balanced it becomes a one or two finger light for hours at a time.

I have read some threads of buyers purchasing their polarions thru Ken Good? Is he able to discount the lights? I would want to order from the best source possible.

Thanks again for the information.

Tony

 

[Patriot]

I think the "discounts" you may have been seeing where those associated with the groupbuy that occurred a long time ago during the announcement of the PH50. The only long running, on going light deal that I'm aware of is the deal from 4Sevens, who is well respected here on CPF.

Given that the wattage is the same, I'd go for the X1. The X1 used to be a 35W light and when someone desired a 40W light they could step up to the PH40. Given that the X1 got bumped up to 40W, imo there's not a whole lot of reason to buy the P series unless you can't live without an HA finish. I've always been a big proponent of the highest power, in the smallest package, at the lightest weight, when all other aspects are similar. In these categories the X1 wins out.

 

[vee73]

Here are a few images.

 

[tab665]

go for the silver finish X-1. all things being equal (price), it still would have been the one i chose. it still has a good ammount of heft and size too it, which makes me even more confident in my choice.

 

[vee73]

X1 video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRdBmkVGL94

 

[tonkem]

Here are a few images.

Anybody here buy a light not only for function, but also for looks? I am kinda liking the look of the PH40 over the x1. Anybody know much about the Abyss? It looks much like the x1.

Thanks again for all your help.

Tony

 

[FrogmanM]

Wow, this is the perfect thread to hold me over until I receive my X1.

-Mayo

 

[Patriot]

Anybody here buy a light not only for function, but also for looks? I am kinda liking the look of the PH40 over the x1. Anybody know much about the Abyss? It looks much like the x1.

Thanks again for all your help.

Tony

abyss

 

[tab665]

excelent video Vee! shows once again why you deserved that generous gift from Ken. :thumbsup:

 

[vee73]

Thank you very much.lovecpf

 

[tonkem]

I think the "discounts" you may have been seeing where those associated with the groupbuy that occurred a long time ago during the announcement of the PH50. The only long running, on going light deal that I'm aware of is the deal from 4Sevens, who is well respected here on CPF.

Given that the wattage is the same, I'd go for the X1. The X1 used to be a 35W light and when someone desired a 40W light they could step up to the PH40. Given that the X1 got bumped up to 40W, imo there's not a whole lot of reason to buy the P series unless you can't live without an HA finish. I've always been a big proponent of the highest power, in the smallest package, at the lightest weight, when all other aspects are similar. In these categories the X1 wins out.

Another question, how long do the batteries hold their charge if unused? I am considering getting extra batteries, but don't know if I will need them.

Thanks again for you help.

I am, at this time, leaning toward the PH40, for looks and grip size. Also finding out if opticsplanet will sell them for less then 4sevens with CPF discount, worth a shot for a high priced item.

I am looking forward to getting the light. How long does it normally take to drop ship from Polarion, as both retailers would have to order direct from Polarion.


Tony
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[tonkem]

Concerning price. www.knivesandtools.com has the PH40 for 1049.50 Euro or $1508.28, which is almost $500 cheaper than 4sevens.com with CPF discount. This retailer is in Germany, anyone deal with a purchase to the US? They also offer free ship to the USA. Any difference in the light, when purchasing from abroad?

Any help would be appreciated. I am very close to pulling the trigger on the PH40.

thanks again.

Tony
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