Rechargable Batteries for Surefire 9P?

KJB32

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Sorry for the newbie question, but are there any rechargable batteries that would fit a Surefire 9P? RCR123's?

Would these offer greater output as well?
 
I believe the following will generally fit (YMMV depending on the actual cell dimensions and drop in used):

2xAA (with spacer tube)
2x14500 (with spacer tube)
2x17500
1x17670 + 1x16340 dummy cell

The 9P is dimensioned for 3x16340 cells end to end.
16=diameter in mm
34=length in mm
0=cylinder form factor

So 3x34mm = 102mm. Therefore any cell combination adding up to ~102mm length will fit.

The 6P and 9P are bored to 17mm diameter. So any cell near that diameter will fit.
 
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those combinations wont be as bright on the Stock P90/P91 , by the way.

or, in the case of 3xRCR123, it would blow the bulb.

Crenshaw
 
2x17500 LiIon rechargeables will provide the same voltage (2x3.7=7.4v) as the standard 3xCR123 configuration (3x2.5=7.5v). This is the highest rechargeable capacity configuration for an unmodified SureFire 9P.

Hope this helps,
K

Also, notifying a mod to move this to the batteries section...
 
It has an R2 LED drop in. I was hoping the switch to rechargeables would maybe increase the output some as well.
 
It has an R2 LED drop in. I was hoping the switch to rechargeables would maybe increase the output some as well.

That would depend on the R2 drop in you are using.... not all are designed for the same Vin.
It most likely would not increase output, since the Vin for XR-E is only ~3.6V.. and Primaries are equally capable of delivering sufficient current to the XR-E.
 
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Kestrel, I always thought a 17500 is 4.2v and a CR123 3v, please correct me if I'm wrong.

KJB32, I have a couple of R2 dropins, they run on 3.7 to 15v, so they can be run on a wide spectrum of cells. I'm not sure if you have the same dropin though.
 
If you don't mind the light being a litter longer, the use of the A19 cell extender will allow you to use two 17670 cells which will provide plenty of power and runtime for your P91 LA and other after market lamps.

My favoirte combo for incan, gulit-free setup without too much of a frankenlight look.
 
If you don't mind the light being a litter longer, the use of the A19 cell extender will allow you to use two 17670 cells which will provide plenty of power and runtime for your P91 LA and other after market lamps.

My favoirte combo for incan, gulit-free setup without too much of a frankenlight look.

That would be a killer setup... ~400+L OTF
 
Kestrel, I always thought a 17500 is 4.2v and a CR123 3v, please correct me if I'm wrong.

KJB32, I have a couple of R2 dropins, they run on 3.7 to 15v, so they can be run on a wide spectrum of cells. I'm not sure if you have the same dropin though.
From what I've read here, it's generally considered that a 4.2v LiIon sags to ~3.7v +-0.1v when under a moderate load. Same thing for a 3.0v (nominal) CR123, 2.5v +-0.1v. I've also read (from SilverFox I think) that a CR123 under a very severe load can sag to as low as 2.2v.

I don't know much about the R2 dropins, but I've read that at 3.7v, they will do only ~140 lumens, to get the rated output I imagine that ~7.5 volts are needed? Just a guess, I'm sure "the truth is out there" (somewhere on CPF). When I think about it I'll try to compare my R2 on 3.7v vs 7.4v sometime...
 
So would RCR123's fit? I believe they are the exact same size as CR123's, correct? I have R2 and Q5 drop-ins that should be fine (and bright) with the added voltage.
 
So would RCR123's fit? I believe they are the exact same size as CR123's, correct?

There are several issues here: size, capacity, and voltage.

RCR123's are the same size as CR123's

RCR123's are 3.7 (4.2) volts vs 3.0 for CR123's

RCR123's can't discharge as far as CR123's, so their effective capacity is less, despite being the same size.

So 3x RCR123's fit fine in a 9P, but in practice, are not as good an option as 2x 17500's (or 2x 18500's with modification). While not as good with incan setups, 2 larger cells work fine with most LED options.
 
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