JoakimFlorence
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Being able to find LED bulbs that have higher CRI in 3500K and 4000K color temperatures can be more difficult. So here is a review of three brands.
Satco (S12417)
This is an LED filament bulb (fully omnidirectional light output).
The specifications for this bulb say 8 Watts, 800 lumens, 90 CRI. I tested both the 3500K and 4000K versions.
The color rendering still feels kind of like average LED light, but a small notch up in improvement. In my opinion the light is "satisfactory" (but I'm very picky about color rendering).
Red colors appear acceptable, more saturated than under normal LED light, but still not really "vibrant".
It has excellent tint, almost like sunlight.
Comparing this to the selectable color temperature bulb, the light almost strangely seems just a tiny notch "yellower" or "warmer", though it's hard to say if this actually has to do with color temperature. And unlike the 3500K and 4000K settings on the color selectable bulb, these bulbs do not have any noticeable flicker.
Comparing this to the selectable color temperature bulb, it seems the Satco may have just a tiny tinge more "warmness" in the light (a feel that's associated with a higher percentage of orange-red wavelengths in the light), but I could be wrong about that, it was just a small impression I seemed to have, it's very difficult to tell for sure. It was not a very big difference. The two are much more similar than different.
It's difficult for me to tell exactly, but I would estimate this light to be exactly 90 CRI (or less than 91 ).
Star Microelectronic Systems
This is a half dome more "directional" LED bulb. The bulb feels extremely lightweight.
800 lumens, 8 Watts"
The color tint of the light from this bulb is not as wonderful as the Satco bulbs. The light somehow does not feel as "soft" or "smooth".
This does not seem as "warm" as the Satco bulb or Ecosmart selectable color temperature bulb (both in the 3500K and 4000K versions). The color rendering seems to come very close, but I suspect the CRI on this might be maybe one or a half point less than the other two bulbs mentioned.
It clearly says "90 CRI" on the packaging box.
While the CRI definitely appears somewhat better than a "normal" LED bulb, the light does not seem as high quality as other high CRI LED bulbs.
I also seem to notice the bulb does not seem to put out quite as much light as the other two bulbs, even though they all are labeled "800 lumens".
The bulb doesn't really have obvious flicker but I perceive there might be some very low level flicker at the very edge of human perception. You would have to be extremely sensitive to even be able to perceive it. It is a little hard to tell and I can't be completely sure. (But it's still far less than the more obvious flicker that develops on the selectable color temperature bulb after it is left on for a few minutes at 3500K or 4000K)
LEDERA Grow Light Bulb
The packaging says "Full Spectrum".
The light seems to be at a little bit higher than 3500K, maybe 3600K.
The appearance of the light has a horrible color tint, like one of those older very low quality 80 CRI LEDs. The light appears just a little "eery orangish" (a little of the feeling of a high pressure sodium vapor street lamp even). Though the light could be described as "white". The color rendering doesn't appear all that wonderful, but despite this I suspect it may contain some longer wavelength coverage.
I don't think the phosphor composition of this was designed with light appearance or CRI in mind.
In terms of orange, red, skin and wood color tone "warmth", I would say this is equivalent to an 89 CRI LED. But in terms of red saturation (how pure red colors can look, rather than orange-red), I would say this is equivalent to a 94 CRI LED.
If the spectral graph on the packaging is to be believed, the "red" phosphor is centered on around 640-650nm. So perhaps while the spectrum does reach more into the longer red wavelengths than other bulbs, there is also less total orange-red light, or at least less red light that the eye can see, since the deeper red wavelengths have less brightness.
(Longer red wavelengths are less orange, which means less can be added before it begins throwing off the overall color tint of the light, making the light no longer white balanced. To be able to counteract this, I think the phosphor formula would have to contain a special (newer generation) SiAlON phosphor that would provide more specific deeper green wavelength coverage, which I do not think this light has. As I said before, I don't think this light was designed for aesthetic appearance and high CRI in mind. What I think this goes to show is that simply just adding deeper red wavelength coverage doesn't always automatically translate into high CRI, it can be a little more complicated than that)
The top of the packaging has 3 empty boxes for indicating color temperature, and there appears to be a manually placed black marker dot marking the box corresponding to "4000K". But the only three options indicated are 3000K, 4000K, and 5000K. So I'm going to guess they just marked "4000K" because, of those three options, that is the one this light is closest to (since there was no "3500K" box option).
The light has no noticeable flicker, so it is very good in that area.
The advertising on the package claims "95+ BALANCED LIGHT SPECTRUMCRI" (with no space between those last words). I suspect what they intended to mean is maybe that it's "equivalent" to 95 CRI, based on the type of red phosphor they used. Not that the light actually is "95 CRI". I think they're just using that to indicate how far into the deeper longer red wavelengths the spectrum of this light has coverage in.
The interesting thing, despite the lackluster color rendering, the light does feel "full", not "hollow", "empty" or "faux white" like other low CRI LED lights. So I think this does show that the human eye can somehow perceive deep red wavelengths (though I'm not sure precisely how) and that it is about more than just "color". This grow lamp is described as "full spectrum" and I would say it has that effect.
In my opinion, I think this "full spectrum" grow bulb could be useful to help alleviate winter depression, more than other normal LED lamps; it's a peculiar psychological effect not altogether the same as color temperature or color rendering.
What else is strange about this light is the light color appears "yellow-orange" even though it is definitely at least 3500K. Whereas a normal 3500K bulb besides it appears rather "neutral white" by comparison, even though you can tell that this grow bulb is a little bluer and higher in color temperature than the normal 3500K bulb. That probably sounds completely paradoxical, but it is what I notice. This bulb somehow has the "feel" and "impression" of a 2700K-3000K bulb, as long as you're not comparing it side by side to other light sources. (But I suppose human perception may have a little trouble accurately judging color temperature after the eyes have adjusted to a light source)
So it seems that having deep red wavelength coverage can cause some bizarre psychological perceptions.
At 1000 lumens and 9 Watts power consumption, that works out to 111.1 lumens per Watt, which would be surprisingly high efficiency. I suspect they may be exaggerating the lumen output. It does not really seem to be that much brighter than a "60 Watt equivalent" ( 800 lumen), so I suspect it might actually be only around 890 lumens in brightness. That would put it closer to 98.9 lumens per Watt, more realistic, I think. (With directional LED bulbs, it might measure the same brightness as another omnidirectional bulb that puts out more lumens, so this might be due to less sophisticated measuring technique by the Chinese manufacturer)
The price of these grow bulbs is very affordable. A 2-pack for $6.
Satco (S12417)
This is an LED filament bulb (fully omnidirectional light output).
The specifications for this bulb say 8 Watts, 800 lumens, 90 CRI. I tested both the 3500K and 4000K versions.
The color rendering still feels kind of like average LED light, but a small notch up in improvement. In my opinion the light is "satisfactory" (but I'm very picky about color rendering).
Red colors appear acceptable, more saturated than under normal LED light, but still not really "vibrant".
It has excellent tint, almost like sunlight.
Comparing this to the selectable color temperature bulb, the light almost strangely seems just a tiny notch "yellower" or "warmer", though it's hard to say if this actually has to do with color temperature. And unlike the 3500K and 4000K settings on the color selectable bulb, these bulbs do not have any noticeable flicker.
Comparing this to the selectable color temperature bulb, it seems the Satco may have just a tiny tinge more "warmness" in the light (a feel that's associated with a higher percentage of orange-red wavelengths in the light), but I could be wrong about that, it was just a small impression I seemed to have, it's very difficult to tell for sure. It was not a very big difference. The two are much more similar than different.
It's difficult for me to tell exactly, but I would estimate this light to be exactly 90 CRI (or less than 91 ).
Star Microelectronic Systems
This is a half dome more "directional" LED bulb. The bulb feels extremely lightweight.
800 lumens, 8 Watts"
The color tint of the light from this bulb is not as wonderful as the Satco bulbs. The light somehow does not feel as "soft" or "smooth".
This does not seem as "warm" as the Satco bulb or Ecosmart selectable color temperature bulb (both in the 3500K and 4000K versions). The color rendering seems to come very close, but I suspect the CRI on this might be maybe one or a half point less than the other two bulbs mentioned.
It clearly says "90 CRI" on the packaging box.
While the CRI definitely appears somewhat better than a "normal" LED bulb, the light does not seem as high quality as other high CRI LED bulbs.
I also seem to notice the bulb does not seem to put out quite as much light as the other two bulbs, even though they all are labeled "800 lumens".
The bulb doesn't really have obvious flicker but I perceive there might be some very low level flicker at the very edge of human perception. You would have to be extremely sensitive to even be able to perceive it. It is a little hard to tell and I can't be completely sure. (But it's still far less than the more obvious flicker that develops on the selectable color temperature bulb after it is left on for a few minutes at 3500K or 4000K)
LEDERA Grow Light Bulb
The packaging says "Full Spectrum".
The light seems to be at a little bit higher than 3500K, maybe 3600K.
The appearance of the light has a horrible color tint, like one of those older very low quality 80 CRI LEDs. The light appears just a little "eery orangish" (a little of the feeling of a high pressure sodium vapor street lamp even). Though the light could be described as "white". The color rendering doesn't appear all that wonderful, but despite this I suspect it may contain some longer wavelength coverage.
I don't think the phosphor composition of this was designed with light appearance or CRI in mind.
In terms of orange, red, skin and wood color tone "warmth", I would say this is equivalent to an 89 CRI LED. But in terms of red saturation (how pure red colors can look, rather than orange-red), I would say this is equivalent to a 94 CRI LED.
If the spectral graph on the packaging is to be believed, the "red" phosphor is centered on around 640-650nm. So perhaps while the spectrum does reach more into the longer red wavelengths than other bulbs, there is also less total orange-red light, or at least less red light that the eye can see, since the deeper red wavelengths have less brightness.
(Longer red wavelengths are less orange, which means less can be added before it begins throwing off the overall color tint of the light, making the light no longer white balanced. To be able to counteract this, I think the phosphor formula would have to contain a special (newer generation) SiAlON phosphor that would provide more specific deeper green wavelength coverage, which I do not think this light has. As I said before, I don't think this light was designed for aesthetic appearance and high CRI in mind. What I think this goes to show is that simply just adding deeper red wavelength coverage doesn't always automatically translate into high CRI, it can be a little more complicated than that)
The top of the packaging has 3 empty boxes for indicating color temperature, and there appears to be a manually placed black marker dot marking the box corresponding to "4000K". But the only three options indicated are 3000K, 4000K, and 5000K. So I'm going to guess they just marked "4000K" because, of those three options, that is the one this light is closest to (since there was no "3500K" box option).
The light has no noticeable flicker, so it is very good in that area.
The advertising on the package claims "95+ BALANCED LIGHT SPECTRUMCRI" (with no space between those last words). I suspect what they intended to mean is maybe that it's "equivalent" to 95 CRI, based on the type of red phosphor they used. Not that the light actually is "95 CRI". I think they're just using that to indicate how far into the deeper longer red wavelengths the spectrum of this light has coverage in.
The interesting thing, despite the lackluster color rendering, the light does feel "full", not "hollow", "empty" or "faux white" like other low CRI LED lights. So I think this does show that the human eye can somehow perceive deep red wavelengths (though I'm not sure precisely how) and that it is about more than just "color". This grow lamp is described as "full spectrum" and I would say it has that effect.
In my opinion, I think this "full spectrum" grow bulb could be useful to help alleviate winter depression, more than other normal LED lamps; it's a peculiar psychological effect not altogether the same as color temperature or color rendering.
What else is strange about this light is the light color appears "yellow-orange" even though it is definitely at least 3500K. Whereas a normal 3500K bulb besides it appears rather "neutral white" by comparison, even though you can tell that this grow bulb is a little bluer and higher in color temperature than the normal 3500K bulb. That probably sounds completely paradoxical, but it is what I notice. This bulb somehow has the "feel" and "impression" of a 2700K-3000K bulb, as long as you're not comparing it side by side to other light sources. (But I suppose human perception may have a little trouble accurately judging color temperature after the eyes have adjusted to a light source)
So it seems that having deep red wavelength coverage can cause some bizarre psychological perceptions.
At 1000 lumens and 9 Watts power consumption, that works out to 111.1 lumens per Watt, which would be surprisingly high efficiency. I suspect they may be exaggerating the lumen output. It does not really seem to be that much brighter than a "60 Watt equivalent" ( 800 lumen), so I suspect it might actually be only around 890 lumens in brightness. That would put it closer to 98.9 lumens per Watt, more realistic, I think. (With directional LED bulbs, it might measure the same brightness as another omnidirectional bulb that puts out more lumens, so this might be due to less sophisticated measuring technique by the Chinese manufacturer)
The price of these grow bulbs is very affordable. A 2-pack for $6.
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