REVIEW: Shiningbeam Romisen RC-N3-Q5

kramer5150

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I just received this little torch a couple days ago and I am VERY impressed...

I placed the order on 7/7, shipped out on 7/8, arrived 7/11. Outstanding!! Good email communication and shipping status through out the order process. Smooth paypal transaction via credit card. I don't believe they will accept E-checks from paypal though. I will DEFINITELY be buying from Shiningbeam in the future, and will not hesitate to recommend them to others. It is very reassuring knowing they are located in NY, and ship product from a North American mail address.:twothumbs

I don't usually like to post detailed reviews within the first week of ownership, but I think word needs to really get out about this $25 gem and the outstanding service from shiningbeam.com. Note also that CPF members get a discount too. So, please keep in mind that I have only had this light for a couple days. I will be posting back to this thread as my opinions change and my crude run-time measurements will be added in the next few days.

Video, PART I, Overview & RCR123 Beamshots
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ia4sUpvnBSk

Video, Part II, Primary / AA Beamshots and GITD Action
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpI2fsAy3QE

PROS:
-Cree Q5 emitter (!!!WOOHOO!!):D
-Forward momentary clickie (!!WOOHOO!!), a very rare feature for lights in this price range.
-GREAT tint... Believe the HYPE the Q5 is very white-like color.
-Configurable 1CR123 or 2AA.
-Good battery spring contact.
-Pretty good thermal management with 4.2V RCR123 cell. Gets warm but not uncomfortably hot after 7-8 minutes, where temps level off.
-Good Performance with primaries and alkaline AA batteries. Lower lumen output but longer run times.
-Solid feeling tailcap.
-GITD switch boot. Its not super-bright, but bright enough to see across a small room in complete darkness with eyes fully open dilated.
-Conservative strike bezel, serviceable yet not over-kill. Strike bezel does not cast funky flood edges.
-Good balance and ergonomics in 2AA mode.
-Good value at $25. I wouldn't go so far as to call it a bargain-basement deal however because the RC-G2, RC-C3 and Fenix E01 can be had for under $15.
-Solid construction and feel
-Good thread and O-ring quality. Overall machining quality is on par with the Nuwai lights I have owned, but a small notch down from a Surefire product.
-Secure shirt clip thats easily removed and serves as an anti-roll feature.
-Splash-proof seals throughout.
-Glass lens/ and OP AL reflector.

CONS:
-Batteries rattle like crazy in 2AA mode. alfreddajero has an excellent O-ring solution in his post below.
-Switch is a little tight in CR123 configuration combined with the lights small size and lack of knurl texture, makes it a little hard to grip when using thumb click momentary operation.
-If this light had a long running low-mode (without sacrificing its high output) it'd be a giant killer.

NEUTRAL :-May be a pro or a con depending on preference.
-Throwey output with serviceable flood. Beam is similar to a DX 6090 drop in (see my beamshot vids).
-Single mode operation, one mode full power... simplicity to the max.
-Bezel is a bit big for an EDC, but that makes it a better thrower. Its size is just about right. Bezel diameter is a good compromise between throw function and EDC practicality.

BATTERY LIFE
-Using inexpensive Ultrafire RCR123 cells I get a little over 40 minutes before it hits the %50 output mark. The light was pretty warm to the touch after the 7 minute mark.
-Using Eveready industrial AA alkalines it ran about 3.5 hours and abruptly hit the %50 mark. The light was mildly warm after the ~20 minute point, no where near as warm as the RCR123 cell.
-As both cells depleted the light abruptly dimmed and turned yellow, but did not completely turn off. The dimly lit emitter pics below were taken with a completely dead CR123 primary. The light seems to enter a kind of candle-mode with dead cells, which is nice IMHO...:candle:

CURRENT DRAW from cell & thermal performance
-Eveready NIMH AA = .53A, warm to the touch
-Costco Kirkland AA alkalines = .58A, warm to the touch
-Powerizer CR123 Primary = .53A, warm to the touch
-Ultrafire RCR123 = .67A, a little warmer than the first 3 but not as hot as my DX11836 or RC-C3 edc.

Current draw from the RCR123 was a bit of a surprise, I was expecting it to be more than that. Not that I am complaining:D.

OVERALL:
An outstandng value. I would put this light at or near the top of the heap in the single RCR123 $25 price range. The fact that it runs off primaries and AA cells of any kind is an added bonus. Great lumen output with a tight spot and serviceable flood to the sides.

I really think this is an ideal CPF-noob torch. EVERYONE has AA cells laying around... just load em' up for some ~90-100 Lumen Cree goodness. Later as your preferences refine step up to RCR123 cells and some EDC action. Not ready to invest in a charger and extra RCR cells... pop in a primary cell and fire away. I am finding the 2AA mode surprisingly useful. The added runtime is a big comfort to anyone.

Package from Shiningbeam
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Romisen box
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Size comparisons



AA Action
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Little pocket thrower (YES it throws with an intense hot spot.... stay tuned for my video review)
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Tail cap, snug RCR123 fit, no cell rattle
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Cree Q5 glorious Cree!
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Emits light from BOTH ends
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Thats all for now
 
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Re: Shiningbeam Romisen RC-N3-Q5

Are you saying the glow tailcap is charged by something inside the tailcap or did you hold a light up to it so it would glow like that?
 
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Are you saying the glow tailcap is charged by something inside the tailcap or did you hold a light up to it so it would glow like that?

No I hit it with my 6P... prior to shooting. The last shot was a little under 2 second exposure so its NO where near that bright in-person. In actuality its just bright enough to make it out across a pitch black room with your eyes dilated.
 
Re: Shiningbeam Romisen RC-N3-Q5

I have this light as well as the DX version. Shipping from shiningbeam took about a week and a half, probably because of a holiday weekend.

My shiningbeam Q5 version has a more yellow tint and draws less from the cells.

I took these measurements:

Romisen RC-N3 P4
0.52A (CR123A primary)
0.56A (RCR123A Tenergy 750mAh 3.0V LiFePO4)
0.53A (2xAA eneloops)
0.80A (16340 TrustFire 880mAh 3.6V)

Romisen RC-N3 Q5
0.43A (CR123A primary)
0.46A (RCR123A Tenergy 750mAh 3.0V LiFePO4)
0.41A (2xAA eneloops)
0.56A (16340 TrustFire 880mAh 3.6V)


I don't have any light meter equipment... so...
 
NITECORE EXTREME & JETBEAM-I PRO vs ROMISEN RC-N3 Q5

I have recently replaced two of my EDC lights - NI EXTREME and JET-I PRO R2 - with a 'no name' ROMISEN RC-N3.
First of all I have sold the 2 lights mentioned before for a few reasons : the EXTREME was sold because it's not good regulated for disposable CR123 batteries and I was feeling it was too small for my hands and the JET-PRO because of the stiffy clikie .
Other than that, excellent little lights , best quality and great output for such a size.
Paying 88$ and 75$ for each of them I preffered to sell them losting about 15$ per light and to get a 26$ shipped ROMISEN RC-N3.
Conclusion : it's well worth.
Romisen is - like NI EXTREME - a bit too small for my hands , it has glass lens and metal reflector and typeII anodizing. But it seems to be harder to scratch than a MAGLITE , probably the grey colour chose is a good one ...
I feel like nothing is missing : it has a forward clickie - I like a lot this type of clickie - , the rubber cap is GITD. I have put a GITD O-RING in front too so now the light looks absolutely sweetie in the night.

The throw ? It's about the same like for the NI EXTREME, according to Ernie's review it's throwing 2/3 from a FENIX T1..and that's about the same like the EXTREME. It's throwing better than a JET-I PRO though
Honestly I didn't expect at that light to be so bright .
I don't need the multimodes of the other 2 flashlights , one stage is OK for me.
Why to pay 80$ for a flashlight when - except the multilevels - you have the same brightness in the same compact size for 1/3 of the price .
Reliability ? I am not expecting that the ROMISEN to last so many years, pb in a couple of months I will look for another small powerful light ...
Anodizing ? That's not a concearn for me ...and despite its typeII the finish looks quite solid
Tactical built like a tank NI EXTREME appearance ? I am not going to war with the ROMISEN ...

There's no doubt that the 2 brand lights are superior to the ROMISEN . But I wonder if that superiority worths 60$ more...
This is my personal conclusion.
 
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Re: NITECORE EXTREME & JETBEAM-I PRO vs ROMISEN RC-N3 Q5

have the Romi also. It's a nice light but I'm not selling my other lights. One of the things I like about it is you can use 2- AA's also.
 
Re: Shiningbeam Romisen RC-N3-Q5

Romi makes some nice lights with good designs and build. They could be a "player" someday. I don't have many "cheep" lights but I think these are some of the better ones.
 
Re: Shiningbeam Romisen RC-N3-Q5

I am also on this RC-N3 Q5 bandwagon. I EDC a Fenix T1 and the RC-N3 and I by far use the Romisen more. Fits in pocket better, lighter, nice brightness and throw. EXCELLENT runtime. I've bought around 25 of these from Shiningbeam now.

This is my all-around flashlight of choice right now. Thank you Shiningbeam!

You have one happy customer here.
 
Re: Shiningbeam Romisen RC-N3-Q5

I use the RC-N3 at work, that way if I lose it I won't be too upset since it was so inexpensive. I was really surprised at how bright that cheap light was. One of the guys I work with was also impressed when I pulled it out because his mini mag just wasn't doing the job.

I would never get rid of my NEI though, it's been my EDC since I got it.
 
Re: Shiningbeam Romisen RC-N3-Q5

Nice, looks like a great light for the price, and simple that you can give them to non-flashaholics.

I've been eyeing the L-Mini offered by Shiningbeam. The shipping is fast because, as reported in their sales threads, all products are shipped from the US, so no overseas wait. This is great, because they still manage to keep the price low.

Nice when a low-cost light works out so well.
 
Re: Shiningbeam Romisen RC-N3-Q5

I ordered my RC-N3 Q5-ShiningBeam two weeks before you and received mine in just under a week (New York to California). I find it an excellent, bright, cheap light and am now testing it out as a gift idea and also to throw in my cars' glove compartments for emergencies. That it takes CR123 and AA makes it more appealing to me for emergencies.
 
Re: Shiningbeam Romisen RC-N3-Q5

What are you guys getting on run times on 2-aa cells?
 
Re: Shiningbeam Romisen RC-N3-Q5

My crude test revealed about 4hrs of runtime constant on.

This was using cheap Energizer Industrial alkalines.
 
Re: Shiningbeam Romisen RC-N3-Q5

As you guys can see that i have a couple of Romisens lights....i have been edc'ing the N3 Q5 in cr123 configuration for about 3 months now, and so far it hasnt let me down at all.....i was hoping that Kramer would put in an order of the Q5 version for his tests. And i also love the fact that Bryan is about 9hours away from me. Shipping is fast.:)

 
Re: Shiningbeam Romisen RC-N3-Q5

Whats the mah on the cells. I use Duracell 2650 and in the one that i edc i have a 3volt rcr and in both formats it doesnt even get warm at all.
 
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My crude test revealed about 4hrs of runtime constant on.

This was using cheap Energizer Industrial alkalines.
How much did the output decrease roughly on alkalines?
I should do a crude test myself sometine as I have a couple of them.
Thanks.
 
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