SF M6 options

[mikevelarde]

I know jslappa is running the Hikari bulb in his megalennium w/ trits with 3X18650 (bleeded off some voltage with WA1185 in another MN bi pin holder.) he is also using the AW soft start to prevent possible POOF!

jslappa also suggested that before ramping the light to full. he let his megalennium on at 30% for 10 sec. before going into second gear and another 10 sec. before going full blast! 2300lumens of incan goodness! :nana:

another disclaimer here: use the Hikari bulb at your own risk as FM had said. random POOF occurs with his Hikari bulb.

 

[mdocod]

Edited out 😉 error corrected, nevermind, bla

 

[Steve in SoCal]

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[jslappa]

I have logged about 2 hours on the JC5607, with not a single hiccup. I run it on 3 X 18650's and use the AW softstart. I NEVER start it on high, and always start in on low with the soft start. Based on LuxLuthor's charts, the bulb is at the end of it's life. At $1.15 each, I will just replace it with a fresh 5607. I don't want to push my luck with a KT4 reflector. But I will keep the bulb and use it in my TLS turbohead. I would personally not be willing to try the 5607 with 6 x IMR 16340s. I would, however, try the 3 x 17670 holder in the M6, as long as you were also running the AW softstart. I would not try it in the M6 with a clicky or the stock twisty/mementary.

Honestly, I bought 50 of these bulbs, and 11 of them were not centered perfectly. Since you don't have to actually center the bulb, I can bend and twist the bulb until the filament is centered. If you think about the X, Y and Z axis, tilting the filament actually shortens the length of the filament, making the hotspot less elongated. Not quite the look of an axial bulb, but you get the picture.

Finally, I would love the ability to purchase the FM1909 bulb, but I don't want to be force-fed a new host in the process. I am sure the cost of the bulb has a great deal to do with his decision to only sell the 1909 with the hosts, but a roadblock nonetheless. for now, I will continue to use a $1.15 bulb that puts out 2300 lumens of beautiful incan light.

You know, I have spent many many hours reading this site. I bet I spend 4 hours each day just reading. I have a feeling that there are some here who are bashing this bulb because it may be a direct competitor to a (although better) bulb a well-respected seller and fellow CPF'r is selling. I think we all have seen it a few times when members post in other members' sales thread to help them get an item sold. I have done it a few times myself. So far I have only seen one verified catastrophic failure, followed by a picture of the supposed damage. everything else is heresay.

 

[mikevelarde]

Edited out 😉 error corrected, nevermind, bla

I really want to know what error! care to share!

 

[mdocod]

I really want to know what error! care to share!

Don't worry about it, I just pointed out what I thought was an error in a post (reflecting a misguided thought process), it turned out to be a typo so no correction necessary. The post with said error has been edited to be correct.

 

[mikevelarde]

Don't worry about it, I just pointed out what I thought was an error in a post (reflecting a misguided thought process), it turned out to be a typo so no correction necessary. The post with said error has been edited to be correct.

Thanks a lot for the clarification!:thumbsup:

I first thought it was my post that need some editing !!

 

[Steve in SoCal]

I have logged about 2 hours on the JC5607, with not a single hiccup. I run it on 3 X 18650's and use the AW softstart. I NEVER start it on high, and always start in on low with the soft start. .... I don't want to push my luck with a KT4 reflector. But I will keep the bulb and use it in my TLS turbohead. I would personally not be willing to try the 5607 with 6 x IMR 16340s. I would, however, try the 3 x 17670 holder in the M6, as long as you were also running the AW softstart. I would not try it in the M6 with a clicky or the stock twisty/momentary.

Keep up the good work testing out this cheap little super bulb :thumbsup:. As you know, 6x IMR 16340s in the stock M6 holder has the same rated voltage as your setup but I'm not sure about the voltage sag under load so it may be a more aggressive or conservative setup:shrug:. I would prefer to run 3x18650s for longer runtimes but I do not have a body which will accomodate. You are on the leading edge with testing of this bulb and I am watching closely. I only have a KT4 head at present so need to be very cautious to avoid. This bulb draws too many amps for 3x17670s so this is not a viable option.

I am sure the cost of the bulb has a great deal to do with his decision to only sell the 1909 with the hosts, but a roadblock nonetheless. for now, I will continue to use a $1.15 bulb that puts out 2300 lumens of beautiful incan light..

FYI, I think the FM1909 is also available with FM's M*g bi-pin setup (http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=179891)
but I understand your point. Maybe Carley would make them for us too if we bought 100 @ $15-16 each

You know, I have spent many many hours reading this site. I bet I spend 4 hours each day just reading.

Myself as well. I think it is fun developments like this that keep me interested. Hopefully more people will be turned back on to incans. I always find it depressing when only 10 people are viewing this section vs. 200 over at LEDs. The reality is that battery technology is lagging behind technologically and once it catches up we will soon have much longer runtimes with these fun high output bi-pins.

So far I have only seen one verified catastrophic failure, followed by a picture of the supposed damage. everything else is heresay.

Looking at LuxLuthor's destructive testing it would appear reasonable to run this bulb on 3x Li-ions at ~11.1 with a softstart. Only time will tell how robust these bulbs are across a larger sample. Hopefully more people will test out this little guy. Where did you buy your stash?

 

[n2deep]

My favorite set-up:

Lumens Factory HO-M6R w/ mdocod 3x17670 holder.

What kind of run times are we looking at with this setup?

 

[ShineOnYouCrazyDiamond]

HO-M6R = 2.1 Amps.

1.6/2.1X60= 45 minutes.

With AW SoftStart on
Low = 45/0.45 = 101 minutes

Really not that bad for the light and throw.

 

[n2deep]

LOL the search function is my friend... I just found it in a post from 2007. Thanks for the reply I have also ordered the soft start as well so that info on low was greatly appreciated. :twothumbs

 

[jslappa]

FYI, I think the FM1909 is also available with FM's M*g bi-pin setup (http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=179891)
but I understand your point. Maybe Carley would make them for us too if we bought 100 @ $15-16 each


Looking at LuxLuthor's destructive testing it would appear reasonable to run this bulb on 3x Li-ions at ~11.1 with a softstart. Only time will tell how robust these bulbs are across a larger sample. Hopefully more people will test out this little guy. Where did you buy your stash?

Thanks for letting me know that all i really have to do is buy a M*G bi pin to get the 1909's. Much better option, and one I'll take him up on soon!

As for my stash, bulbtronics is the place. They are nice people, but be sure that you don't get the JC5607 that is potted and in a reflector. I see one person had that happen, though I can't be certain it was the same seller. Also, I bought 50 of the JC5607, and 14 had filaments that were off-center.

On the bright side, the bulbs fit perfectly in the KT4 and the KT1 I have. the bulb seems to be the exact same circumference as the FM MN Bi Pin post. And I have yet to burn out my first bulb!