Show your 12P/12ZM/12PM(T3,SRTH,or mod, NOT M4) !!

[cenz]

i'm user too, I very love my 12pm sofar, but the stock bulb is quite un-practical...

anyway, it is classic and powerful flashlight ever~

and... would you like to describe your moding info?

my 12PM and 9P moding

 

[willrx]

I recently purchased a 12ZM and would like to know more about it. It is currently en route. I'll post some pics when it arrives.

 

[Size15's]

I still get a buzz from using my 12PM with T-Series TurboHead and N62. On fresh batteries for a few minutes it's just a wonderful beam.

I've always wished I purchased the 12ZM instead back when I had the chance.

 

[willrx]

Wow, what an honor. Thanks for replying to this thread. Do you have time to share any information on the 12ZM or its history? Thanks.

 

[Size15's]

It's a Flashlight in the real sense of the word. If you need constant-on light output select an M6.

The 12ZM was created to provide specialist law enforcement and military operators with a "Tactical Entry Light" - to overwhelm those inside with a massive slam of brilliant white light. Since it would only be used for a few seconds, perhaps up to a minute at time it was decide to suck every last possible drop out of the four batteries for maximum light output.
At the time the 12ZM/12PM were released they represented a truly awesome light output for what is actually a light-weight, compact and easily manipulated flashlight [compared to the likes of the Streamlight SL-35X which was perhaps the only other flashlight capable of similar output]

The N62 does not take any prisoners or suffer pretenders when it comes to feeding it. Use only Duracell DL123A or SureFire SF123A batteries.
They must all be new and fresh and you'll get two 3-minute constant-on bursts of high quality light output, although the second burst once the batteries have cooled down lacks the extended brilliance.

When used too much (for example constant-on) the batteries overheat and go into "thermal shutdown" to prevent themselves from exploding. Swap out to a fresh set and allow the hot ones to call down for 10 minutes or so.

It's not a flashlight for those who care about the cost of feeding it plenty of DL123A or SF123A batteries.

Al

 

[willrx]

Al,
Thank you Sir! It would have taken years to learn what you've shared here. Really appreciate the lesson.:thumbsup:
Will

 

[MorpheusT1]

I have one Minty Fresh comming my way aswell.
:naughty:

What kind of bulb options do i have and what runtimes to expect from the diffrent types?
My plan was just to pop a Tower module and a Seoul driven at 1300mA.
Not the Brightest setup though..


Benny

 

[cenz]

I just only hv 12PM, N62 is really a "luxury battery terminator", as for "thermal shutdown", it 's never happen sofar, may be my CR123a quality is not excellent (low current)...

Recently, I've upgraded my 12PM into 18650 field, 2x Panasonic Japan 2350mah li-ion, it is rated 3.5A~(4.2V) and ~3.3A(3.8V).

 

[AW]

I still play with my 12ZM once in awhile. Can't think of anything that can replace it.

 

[MorpheusT1]

Hi AW,

Do you run the regular bulb in it?

Any Recommendations Bulb Wise?

 

[AW]

Benny,

I am running the N62 and sometimes MN60 / MN61.

AW

 

[MorpheusT1]

Cool,

Seems the N62 is hard to find Or is it?
I found this HO-M4A alternative from Lumensfactory.

Cant wait to get mine.


Regards,
Benny

 

[cenz]

Benny,

I am running the N62 and sometimes MN60 / MN61.

AW

Hi AW,

How about the beamquality when using MN60/61 with SRTH? any beam-hole?

Size15's is correct, who said N62 is not perfectly performance with SRTH. 3"Turbohead is more perfect with N62, very tight beam@@

 

[cenz]

Cool,

Seems the N62 is hard to find Or is it?
I found this HO-M4A alternative from Lumensfactory.

Cant wait to get mine.


Regards,
Benny

So surprising, N62 is still available in Surefire Taiwan
http://www.surefire.com.tw/lamp_assembly.html

I tried 12PM(SRTH)+HO-M3T is very good beam, it similar to N2~

 

[AW]

Cenz,

MN60/61 w/ SRTH has no donut hole. Using the EO-M3T in the 12ZM has a tighter beam and throws further than in a M6.

AW

 

[Size15's]

The original TurboHead for the 12PM/12ZM was the dedicated, T-62 TurboHead or TRTH (Threaded Rim TurboHead). It was only supplied with the SRTH (Short Rim TurboHead) once the TRTH were used up.
The reflector finish is quite different making for different beams.

 

[cenz]

The original TurboHead for the 12PM/12ZM was the dedicated, T-62 TurboHead or TRTH (Threaded Rim TurboHead). It was only supplied with the SRTH (Short Rim TurboHead) once the TRTH were used up.
The reflector finish is quite different making for different beams.

So.. Is SRTH a rare & momentary version TH, rather than T62?

 

[Size15's]

So.. Is SRTH a rare & momentary version TH, rather than T62?

The T-62 (in this instance I understand there is a "-" dash) was the original compact (2.5" diameter) TurboHead [compared to the 3" diameter T-Series 'Extended Range' TurboHeads]

SureFire made the T-62 (TRTH = Threaded Rim TurboHead) to accept a screw-in IR BeamFilter that was only available for a short time to very select group of clients.

Without the wider need for the threading SureFire created the SRTH (Short-Rim TurboHead). Although it was supplied as part of some later 12PM/12ZM/LeopardLights, as an accessory the SRTH was exclusively available through a SureFire Dealer Lagger Pro (LPS) and several batches were made.

It was determined that the 3" diameter reflector did not afford a significant enough difference to justify the big difference in bulk so SureFire developed their T-Series replacement (the KT TurboHead) at 2.5" diameter, and their Millennium [Series Shock Isolated] TurboHead around the 2.5" diameter form-factor (12PM = M4).

Al

 

[willrx]

Received my sealed NIB 12ZM. My tail cap, as viewed through the plastic bag, is slightly different from AW's pictured above. Mine does not have a "12ZM" designation. Later version perhaps? Might need Size 15's on this one. Pictures coming soon.

 

[Size15's]

does sound like one from a later batch...