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For $175 you could buy
five new
modular Lumens Factory Seraph* shipped,
that'll do 18650 straight away.
*Black steel bezel
www.lumensfactory.com
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Yeah, I think some people who have piles of Surefire hosts (or haven't bought one since they got in in store somewhere) don't realize how poor of a value starting with Surefire is these days. Sure, if you REALLY hunt and search across eBay, forums, and social media, you can luck into a deal, but that's not a guarantee, and you might end up waiting for a good while. They're pretty pricey. I got my first MD2 several years ago, and the Surefire hosts were already overpriced (in my view).
Lumens Factory and Malkoff make really nice hosts in different sizes (the SP-6M does 18650 and 18350 with the same host) for similar money to what you'd spend on an old Surefire (probably less if you're looking at NOS Surefires). A LF SP-6M with their D26 drop-in or a Malkoff MD2 with an M61 drop-in will often cost you less than a mint Surefire host will...
If you're looking for a really cheap option, those KDLITKER E6 hosts with their P6 drop-ins can be bought for under $20. AliExpress has a bunch of random different hosts and drop-ins for the adventurous, haha.
At this point, I think they're really just for collectors. People looking to get into the drop-in lifestyle are probably not going to start with a Surefire host in 2025.
But, to be fair, how long has it been since Surefire produced the last one of these? Even with making millions, that's a finite supply, and people tend to probably just throw their flashlights out as they aged. I'm sure a fair portion of people switched to LEDs NOT with using drop-ins, but just getting a whole new light, and just forgetting about their old incandescent Surefire. I can see it making a lot more sense to just jump over to a "modern 18650" LED light than look to retrofit your 2x CR123A Surefire. And, once that switch happened, into the trash went the Surefire.
I mean, you see this with surplus firearms. I think I saw Mosin rifles are now selling for $4-500 on the low end these days...