t20c2 disappointed

[cambel]

I just recieved my eagletac in the mail today I dont really know what I was expecting but this things feels like a cheap pos compared to my ten year old, half the price, xenon pentagon light. Worst part is I just ordered another eagletac last night. Does anyone know the best way of removing the switch from the tailcap. The momentary funtion doesn't work for ish.

 

[Glock27]

The real question is how does the actual light compare to the ~50 lumen xenon pentagon....if you can't tell the difference, I'd send it back.
G27

 

[cambel]

More flood, slightly less throw and as to be expexted, the color tint sux. My pentagon light says 70 lum on the package. The eagle is brighter in the flood sence but I thought there would have been a bigger difference from 70 to 300 lum. Keep in mind this is my first led first led flashight and all I have to compare it to is a pentagon x2 xenon. The build quality of the eagle is NO WHERE even close to the pentagon light. After two weeks of searching on this forum for the best light for my needs, I guess I made the wrong choice:thumbsdow

 

[tre]

1) The T20C2 MKII is a flood light - it does not have decent throw unless you add the optional XR-E drop-in.

2) The momentary should work fine - if your does not, there is something wrong.

3) The light is pretty bright - did you check your batteries?

4) Go into a dark room and point the light at the ceiling while looking at the floor - do this with both lights. If you don't notice that the room is much brighter with the T20C2, your batteries are dead or something is wrong.

5) Is the head fully tightened to get high mode?

6) I find the build quality to be ok. The light is made of aluminum so it should be decently light to carry around. I find this to be a benefit. It is actually pretty amazing a light that is this light weight can get rid of heat but it does.

I assume you have the XP-G emitter?

 

[cambel]

Just to make things clear, its a great little light, but just does not compare as far as durability goes to my pentagon light. The eagle tac is bright, I know its not meant to be a thrower with the xpg, but it still throws pretty well. I sure as hell floods alot more than my other light. The modes are great, getting into low mode is annoying but it has a low mode so no complaints. The rechargable factor is awsome, my pentagon doesn't take the 18650's. My ONLY gripe is the durabilty factor, I guess I was just expecting a more rugged light. Also dont get me wrong its not fragile either and under normal use I doubt it would break. I just wouldn't let a toyota yaris drive over it and expect it to still work, I would let an 18 wheeler drive over my pentagon light and I know it woud still work. The t20c2 is a great little light with alot of options, I bought ever acc. I could find. I like the eagle tac, I still love my basic, battery eating, one mode pentagon x2 after almost ten years of torcher.

 

[cambel]

After playing with the light for awhile I realised the tailcap doesn't seem to be the problem. It seems like there is a delay from when you push the button till it lights, which makes the momentary switch difficult to master. Anyone know how to take out the switch from the tail without breaking anything? It came with a gitd cap which I might put on for a bit.

 

[Stillphoto]

I'll add that while I've never owned any pentagon lights, those were some well made, solid lights. Great finish on them too. So I can understand going from one of those to the Eagletac that there's a bit of a step down in how the light feels in hand.

 

[richpalm]

Did you get the T20C2 Mk. II? I'm pretty fussy but I love mine. I can light up everything for a couple hundred feet so no complaints.

I'm not hard on lights and I'm not gonna abuse it anyway.

There is a slight delay when I turn mine on but not distracting.

Rich

 

[jonnyfgroove]

Anyone know how to take out the switch from the tail without breaking anything? It came with a gitd cap which I might put on for a bit.

This funny thread should help you with the tailcap. :thumbsup:

 

[offthetrail]

I just bought a t20c2 mark II last week and I absolutely love it. The build quality seems really good to me, and it is definitely bright. Its not a thrower, but it still lights up a good distance IMO. Its a good balance of throw and spill. I don't think durability will be a problem for me, but I really take care of my stuff.

 

[Plus-Secur]

I already posted this in an older thread:
I own the T20C2 MKII and I carried it on duty as a a paramedic and EPA.
It is a good light, but there are some points about it. The head is not stressproof (you turn it to change modes but you also turn it to open the head. Happened to me, that I opened the head instead of changing the modes until I glued it), the clip is quite fragile, can get lost and it scratches the body. The bezel can be lost if you carry the flashlight loosly clipped in your pocket during some shifts (happened to me, too. I also glued this one) and I don`t believe that the rubber parts will last longer than a year, especially if you want to disinfect it from time to time. The UI of the strobe is nice and easy, but the strobe is way too slowly (enough for warning, but 14-16hz is much better for blinding purposes from our experience).
It is a nice light, and it is perfect for a hobbyist, but I would not get it again for professional use. I also own the M20S and I like it a lot more.

 

[chizel]

Keep in mind folks that this light is a brightness for the buck type of product first and foremost. It is not built like an SF, then again it also is not priced like one.

Yes aluminum can sometimes feel cheap cause it's lightweight, but it is plenty durable for MOST users and conducts heat well.

Don't set your expectations sky high and you won't be disappointed. This light is for folks who want to get as much output out of a unit without paying through the nose for "ruggedness" that they don't need...that is if they are honest with themselves. I've never managed to have any of my lights get run over by a peterbilt. Funny that..

It's all about tradeoffs people.

 

[molon_labe]

I have the T20C2 Mk. II and my 1st impression was it was cheap and lightweight. I also dont like the non memory low feature. I have to twist the head every time to get low which is not low enough. I kept the light but it is not my favorite. It is very bright though. Might make a good weapon light if it can handle the recoil.

 

[richpalm]

Ok, if you guys don't like your T20CII's, you can send 'em on to me, LOL! :nana::wave:

I'd like a second one cheap for permanent use with the diffuser...

This is a bad addiction...

Rich

 

[shipwreck]

Yes, I am surprised to see all this. I have 4 Eagletacs. My P20C2 Mk II is my fav, actually. But, I do have the T20C2 MK KII, and I am very satisfied with the output and durability of it. It's almost like we are talking about 2 different lights here... Wow. Sorry to see so many guys not satisfied with theirs.

Depending on what comes out in the future, I will likely buy more...

 

[jsr]

I think there are 2 drastically differing opinions of the quality due to how people perceive quality. it sounds like some feel heft directly translates to quality and lightness means cheap. If that's the case we should ask mfrs to make the walls 10mm thick so a light the size of the T20C2 weighs 2lbs. The circular structure is innately strong. Even though it may feel thin and light (which many people ask for to reduce weight) it will withstand quite a bit of crushing force...more than your family car can dole out with its squishy tires. Stopping a bullet like the 6P that Surefire uses in their ads is another thing. But weight shouldn't be directly associated with quality.

 

[cambel]

Sorry to open up a can of worms. I was expecting too much. I have been out of the loop for ten years and decided that I wanted an affordable bright light. That is exactly what I got. My other light is military grade, this one does not seem to be. Surfire is great and all, but they wil never get a penny from me. The olight sure do look nice, but for some reason I chose the t20c2. After playing with it for a day, I dont regret my choice. I just might have to look into something else for my purpose, maybe a drop in for my other light. The pentagon light already saved my life twice so I guess I'm just a bit bias. The eagle tac is bright as **** and I look forward to the other one that is in the mail. :thumbsup:

 

[jhc37013]

If you have not already found this out the delay is normal for the T20C2 MKII and P20, changing the switch is not going to help. Keep it for awhile and maybe it will grow on, keep in mind the quality is about the same as other similar priced lights like Fenix, Olight and 4sevens to name a few.

If you want a better quality LED light and willing to pay for it look at Surefire, HDS and Malkoff. For a less expensive alternative and what I consider quality somewhere between the Surefire and Eagletac look at Zebralight and Jetbeam.

Also there are very few XP-G light's one might consider a descent thrower most are all flood lights. Is the other Eagletac light you have coming the P20C2 MKII? I prefer the P20 over the T20, because of it's smaller size it's seems to get more of a wow factor and output is the same with the t20 having just a tad bit more throw. The P20 is a great light to EDC in it's holster on your belt but it to is going to have the delay with momentary and constant turn on.

Anyways welcome to CPF it seems you have hit the ground running.

 

[cambel]

Thank you to all. I wish I could take back my post, I am eating my words a bit. I posted 5 min after opening my light and by the light weight and lack of use, I spoke to soon. The t20c2 is awsome. The features and options are exactly what I was looking for. Adaptability was what I was after and I got it with the t20c2. I came from a place where my life depended on my equipment, that is no longer the case. Atleast not even close to the same way. Nowadays I build class 3 JSTD military electronics and I guess my opinions are very squewd. I must say that after playing with the light, I love it. I also really love my new pn20a2, I wish I had it years ago. It is just perfect. Cant wait to bring it to work and show it off. Small, takes aaa and its bright as hell for what it is and the beam of both my eagle tacs are smooth as silk. 99.9% of the people on here will never kill an eagle tac so please dont let my initial opinion stop you from buying a great product.

 

[PJD]

cambel...I know what you mean about the "feel" issue. I've only owned one Pentagonlight, which was the L2, and it was built like a TANK! There is definitely a difference in the "feel" of the two brands. Having said that, I gotta say that I own an ET P20C2 MKII, and I absolutely LOVE it! It's not a throw-monster by any means, but it has what I consider to be one of the most "useful" beams I've ever seen in a light, and the throw is actually adequate for most tasks. As far as the delay while temporarily activating the light is concerned, it's actually a little LONGER of a delay while in general mode than it is in high mode. To me, it's VERY noticeable in general mode, but HARDLY noticeable in high mode. I front pocket-carry mine at work daily, and have never had in issue with the clip...and I do a LOT of climbing, squatting, bending and lifting. The clip has never bent, and it's never failed to hold the light securely where it's supposed to be. Also, I've yet to have an issue with the bezel ring coming loose, or any other component for that matter. Granted, I don't think it's SF or Pentagonlight quality by any means...but it sure ain't shabby for the price! As far as it being a step "below" JETBeam in quality, well, all I can say is that that's DEFINITELY a matter of opinion!

I don't think you opened a can of worms by any means! Sometimes we ALL prematurely judge a light negatively before giving it a chance to grow on us. By the same token, I think at some point or other, most of us have prematurely judged a light POSITIVELY before we've had a chance to look at some negative aspects as well...or before the negative aspects become apparent! In any regard, I'm glad the T20C2 MKII has grown on you...I think it's a good "bang for the buck" light!

PJD