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[jimjones3630]

both pics are the 64558s in FM 3H-1 reflector, 16 Elite 2000 4/5's. Easy to build the batt. pak with 16 cells, will abit more work to mod the tailcap to accept 17 cells but then the next 3 cells for total of 20 would be all down hill from there.

Hope these photos show the difference bench supply and this batt. pak. Looks way better to me. Hope someone posts some lumen readings since I don't have the equipment.

Jim

 

[LuxLuthor]

Someone needs a tripod!

You are using those cells for more capacity? The physical size is why the 2/3A cells make it easier to setup a 3D with 16 or 17....but my understanding is 17 cells runs the risk of flashing?

 

[JimmyM]

Someone needs a tripod!

You are using those cells for more capacity? The physical size is why the 2/3A cells make it easier to setup a 3D with 16 or 17....but my understanding is 17 cells runs the risk of flashing?

17 rested cells won't flash it. 18 DEFINITELY will flash it.

 

[jimjones3630]

Lux, yes I'm using 4/5A's for longer run time. The Elephant body is just mm's longer than 3D with the 160mm extension, easily fit 4sx5p 4/5 A's by doing a tailcap mod.

Can fit 16 AA 4sx4p or using 2/3A even more in an old Mag D. Problem with the old (no D in the serial number) D it's threaded differently and FM's 3" head won't fit. Would make one stealth light.

Recently found stored away what I initally thought a 3D kel-lite. Due to it's lack of a mag lite like switch, uses a copper strip to make contact between bat. and bulb (simplicity itself), it's turned out to be a 5D easily holding 4sx6p AA's.

Oh, the possibilities.

Yes, truly need a tripod. Hopefully, someone with a Death Blaster will have one and post some lovely photo's.

The real time effect of this mod is no way done justice by these photos. Blazed this monster next to M@g625 with FM-3H1 and it looked dim in comparison. 11,000 lumens vs 2,2500 L. about 1/4th lumens.

Much like comparing M@g625 side by side with SF M3. Has changed my definition of a Wow light.

Plan to add 17th cell once electronics(soft start, PWM) is worked out.

Jim

Someone needs a tripod!

You are using those cells for more capacity? The physical size is why the 2/3A cells make it easier to setup a 3D with 16 or 17....but my understanding is 17 cells runs the risk of flashing?

 

[frogs3]

Have you measured runtime with the 17 4/5 A cells? Is heat a problem (like the head is too hot to touch, insulation melts, smoke forms, etc.) with continuous running?

-HAK

 

[jimjones3630]

frogs3, runtime 2000mah x17 p would be about the same I think as x16p with 10 amp draw would be about 12-15min.

Have only run it couple of min. so far. See the photo in this thread with it run from bench power via kiu socket, FM3- head. See the smoke? That is from glow in the dark paint after drying for over a week. Probably, some moisture left that it burnt off.

Final mod will have ceramic refractory insulation from McMaster-car as JimmyM recommended and used on his M@g458. Yeah, heat is a big time concern. From running this bulb on the bench the reflector and everything around it got way hot.

Of note is I'm running this in a FM Elephant with huge finned 3" head that is one big heat sink.

Hope to take more pics tonight.

Jim

Have you measured runtime with the 17 4/5 A cells? Is heat a problem (like the head is too hot to touch, insulation melts, smoke forms, etc.) with continuous running?

-HAK

 

[LuxLuthor]

LOL...speaking of the deathblaster....some kids were lighting packs of firecrackers last night at about midnight. One or two packs was understandable (I used to be a kid). When there was a 4th pack going off, with 5 minute breaks between each one...I figured it was time for 30 seconds of the DeathBlaster lighting up their little operation. They started screaming...."let's get out of here" and scampered off somewhere. My dog finally was able to stop barking.

LOL! Man that thing is incredibly bright...it looked like a police search copter was painting their entire area. My backup coming next was the Larry14K!

 

[jimjones3630]

The three contenders


M@g85 9enloops AA nonregulated,

M@g 625,freash 13,2v 1500Mah pak with HD set 12.9v

M@g 458 16 4/5A's toped off direct drive. not as much differency need better equipment.

 

[TMorita]

I wonder if someone can mill me an 11" head for a Mag so I can use this:

http://ils.spectrolab.com/ILS Datasheets/SX-16 020906 REV A.pdf

Toshi

 

[LuxLuthor]

I wonder if someone can mill me an 11" head for a Mag so I can use this:

http://ils.spectrolab.com/ILS%20Datasheets/SX-16%20020906%20REV%20A.pdf

Toshi

You'll shoot your eye out, Ralphie.

 

[JimmyM]

The three contenders


M@g85 9enloops AA nonregulated,


M@g 625,freash 13,2v 1500Mah pak with HD set 12.9v




M@g 458 16 4/5A's toped off direct drive. not as much differency need better equipment.

How many volts are you getting to the bulb using 16 x 4/5As?

 

[ar_wanton]

We need to get Fivemega to make more of these 6AA body extensions and magazines.

https://www.candlepowerforums.com/threads/68347&page=1&pp=30

The 18 AA magazine would be perfect for the 64458. Get a few dummy cells and no building packs. Plus if the soft start drive become a reality, no need to build new packs.

 

[jimjones3630]

How many volts are you getting to the bulb using 16 x 4/5As?

Batt. pak measured 23.5v fresh off charger, let rest for several hours will measure at the bulb tonight when home.

I wish I could capture what I see because the 458 is so brighter with more usage side spill than the 625.

Jim

 

[RickB]

I wish I could capture what I see because the 458 is so brighter with more usage side spill than the 625.

Jim

Jim,

I hate to say this, but I'm 99% sure your photo for the 458 is the identical image as for the 625. Same exact file size (88,000 bytes), same timestamp in the lower right corner, and the fc (file compare) command in Windows reports "no differences encountered."

Maybe you have another image (or images) in your camera that do capture the difference between the two bulbs?

-Rick

 

[jimjones3630]

I realized the last two photos are the same lamp, 64625HXL

Below is batt. pak full charged 16 4/5 Elite 2000 charged to 23.5v.
Volts at the lamp pins 23.8v continued to sag over one min, run.

 

[jimjones3630]

RickB, Yes your correct. My goof. I noticed it yesterday and forgot to mention when I posted the lattest.

Jim

Jim,

I hate to say this, but I'm 99% sure your photo for the 458 is the identical image as for the 625. Same exact file size (88,000 bytes), same timestamp in the lower right corner, and the fc (file compare) command in Windows reports "no differences encountered."

Maybe you have another image (or images) in your camera that do capture the difference between the two bulbs?

-Rick

 

[jimjones3630]

Jim,

I hate to say this, but I'm 99% sure your photo for the 458 is the identical image as for the 625. Same exact file size (88,000 bytes), same timestamp in the lower right corner, and the fc (file compare) command in Windows reports "no differences encountered."

Maybe you have another image (or images) in your camera that do capture the difference between the two bulbs?

-Rick

The timestamp helps with someheimers...That folks who can't remember some of the time

Jim

 

[jimjones3630]

This morning after the brief run of maybe a min. volts at the pins initally measured 19ish and saged down like watching second hand of a clock to 18.62v holding there.
Surely, can use at least one more batt

Jim

 

[jimjones3630]

After the last photo measuring 18.62v I checked the batt. pak for weak or loose cells finding one loose, resoldered, and now measures 19.31v at the pins on freshly charged pak. Distance to gate in background about 175yrds.

 

[griff]

Mac's 250w Torch model