Titanium P60
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easilyled
Flashaholic
It is indeed rather a gorgeous hunk of Ti, especially with a Kerberos triple-XPG-R5 drop-in .....
With a single IMR 18500, this EDC-able beast puts out the same overall lumens as an OVERREADY triple-drop-in powered by 2 I8500s or IMR 16340s. Therefore 1100 lumens or 800 OTF lumens.
Its by far the brightest of my Ti lights.
With a single IMR 18500, this EDC-able beast puts out the same overall lumens as an OVERREADY triple-drop-in powered by 2 I8500s or IMR 16340s. Therefore 1100 lumens or 800 OTF lumens.
Its by far the brightest of my Ti lights.
RepProdigious
Enlightened
Soooo... thats a DD dropin then? I have the normal one and that's only pulling 2.8A no matter what cell i give it (like it should) so how could it give me more lumenz on an IMR?
easilyled
Flashaholic
No, its not DD. I could no doubt achieve the same output with an ordinary 18500 but decided to use an IMR 18500 just in case it maintains the current output better as the voltage drops. ie. for better regulation.
kellyglanzer
Enlightened
I am in love with this light. Not sure how i'm going to afford one but Wow! is it Gorgeous. :D Mac do you take trades? LOL
This is off topic of the thread but....
Actual Lumen Readings in 10.5in Sphere
kerberos0023 Triple______1 IMR 18650________ 723.8 Lumens
Moddoo's Oveready Triple XP-G R5____1 IMR 18650________ 1260.8 Lumens
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showpost.php?p=3268382&postcount=1
I have two(Cool and neutral) triple's from Oveready and two(R4 & R5)triples from kerberos0023. Although I love the drop in from kerberos0023 and he is a great guy to deal with I cannot agree that it puts out the same amount of light as the triple from Oveready.
Peace.
This is off topic of the thread but....
Actual Lumen Readings in 10.5in Sphere
kerberos0023 Triple______1 IMR 18650________ 723.8 Lumens
Moddoo's Oveready Triple XP-G R5____1 IMR 18650________ 1260.8 Lumens
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showpost.php?p=3268382&postcount=1
I have two(Cool and neutral) triple's from Oveready and two(R4 & R5)triples from kerberos0023. Although I love the drop in from kerberos0023 and he is a great guy to deal with I cannot agree that it puts out the same amount of light as the triple from Oveready.
Peace.
easilyled
Flashaholic
Have a look at the Oveready site my friend. :)
The 3-level drop-in that I bought recently claims 1100 emitter lumens and 800 OTF lumens.
In order to achieve 1260 OTF lumens, the drop-in in question would have to be a DD V2, which is not the one I have.
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So the OP was back in dec. of 09. Was this just a one-off custom or was it a limited run? It really is a nice light.
kellyglanzer
Enlightened
The lumen rating is at the LED Not OTF and was posted not for the acuracy of the lumen rating but to show the relationship of the two dropins. It is showing that the Oveready dropin that you and I both own outperforms the kerberos0023 dropin.
fyrstormer
Banned
That looks fantastic, I've been shopping around for a good P60 host since it looks like there will never be a shortage of upgrades for them. I really would like the option to run it on two IMR123s though, which means it would need to have at least 68mm of room in the battery tube. Switching to 18500s means I'd need to buy another charger.
Since you're considering using 18350s in the Tri-EDC, it might make sense to go ahead and make this one have a 70mm battery tube, so it could run on an 18650 or two 18350s/16340s. More options = better.
Since you're considering using 18350s in the Tri-EDC, it might make sense to go ahead and make this one have a 70mm battery tube, so it could run on an 18650 or two 18350s/16340s. More options = better.
easilyled
Flashaholic
All bigchelis's ratings are OTF because he's measuring them out the front of the light with an integrating sphere.
The 1260 lumens that you quoted is for the V2 Direct Drive version. It is pulling 4A from the tail. (in the link you provided)
Surefire C2 UCL____Moddoo Tripple XP-G R5____1 IMR 18650________ 1260.8 ______ 1 sec____351_______8,775_____
Brass+McClicky____________________________________ ______________ 1190.8_______30 sec______________________
___________________________4A at the tail________________________________________ 1155.4_______1 min______________________
__________________________________________________ _____________________________1118.5_______2 min_______________________
__________________________________________________ _____________________________ 1098.5_______3 min________
A regulated version pulls far less than this.
You have to compare like with like.
I am comparing a regulated Oveready version with the Kerberos version which is regulated. There is virtually no difference in output on mine.
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kellyglanzer
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You are completely right, I didn't realize that was the V2 Direct Drive version. My apologize. :ohgeez::oops:
The only reason I commented is because Their is a distinct differance between the two dropins of mine.
Sorry for the off topic banter Mac.
Kelly
coloradogps
Flashlight Enthusiast
Are these Ti P60 lights available?
Did I miss something?
:confused:
Did I miss something?
:confused:
easilyled
Flashaholic
No, Mac is not doing a run of these. This one was a one-off.
RepProdigious
Enlightened
You could give the fireworm F1 a try, but its not half as pretty as this one, larger and probably nowhere near built to the same spec as any custom..... But its still a Ti P60 host! :hitit:
fyrstormer
Banned
What grade of titanium is the Fireworm made of? Cheap Ti dents just as easily as good aluminum. Mac's host looks like it's more than worth the money, though. :ooo:
RepProdigious
Enlightened
Well Fireworm call it Grade 5 Ti, but i remember reading here on the forum somewhere that its quite a bit softer when put head to head with real Ti6Al4V... Just remember that you're dealing with the Chinese there so it could very well be some exotic combination of lead and melamine that has been coated with some Ti-lookalike metal... Okay, maybe that's not fair but i just cant help being sceptical on everything Chinese manufacturers claim. Since i don't own a fireworm ti myself i cannot confirm or deny any of the above! :oops:
fyrstormer
Banned
I guess I'll let you know what I think when mine arrives. :devil:
easilyled
Flashaholic
Comparing this Mac P60 to any mass produced Titanium lights is like comparing cheese with chalk.
Not only is the grade of Titanium at issue, but also the quality of the machining and the thickness of the material.
This Mac light is built like an underground bunker. The walls are probably ten times as thick as those in a mass produced light. It has a real heft to it when holding it, which some may view as a disadvantage for carrying. However I find it very re-assuring knowing that it is bomb-proof and indestructible.
Not only is the grade of Titanium at issue, but also the quality of the machining and the thickness of the material.
This Mac light is built like an underground bunker. The walls are probably ten times as thick as those in a mass produced light. It has a real heft to it when holding it, which some may view as a disadvantage for carrying. However I find it very re-assuring knowing that it is bomb-proof and indestructible.
RepProdigious
Enlightened
Nobody is comparing the two... I just suggested the F1 because fyrstormer was looking for a P60 host and he obviously likes titanium.
fyrstormer
Banned
Indeed. I'd much rather have the one easilyled has...but alas, it was a one-off...:duh2:
