Visualeyes HID lights mount on rearview mirror
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digitaleos
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I just requested more info on these ie.. how much and when they would be available.
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PhotonWrangler
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They look interesting from the standpoint of the user, but I'd hate to be approaching another car from the opposite direction that was using them.
digitaleos
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The description says they work in conjunction with your high beams and that they have a sensor in them that detects oncoming lights and either switches them off or to a lower level, I forget which.
Edit, I just found the price
$1270. I guess I won't be getting them
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Edit, I just found the price
$1270. I guess I won't be getting them.
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PhotonWrangler
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At that price I agree! Move on, nothing to see here...
TorchBoy
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I think they mean it's mounted in front of the mirror. And apparently HID is so efficient because the spectrum corresponds more closely (warning; incomplete comparative - more closely than what?) to our vision.
Why is is radio controlled, how is it powered, and who would pay that much?
I had to laugh when I saw the directors were both names Lars. I'm still working out why I think that's funny.
Why is is radio controlled, how is it powered, and who would pay that much?
I had to laugh when I saw the directors were both names Lars. I'm still working out why I think that's funny.
Diesel_Bomber
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This really seems like a solution looking for a problem. I can certainly see some advantages, but I really don't think they outweigh the disadvantages that I also see. In no particular order:
Reflectors that small aren't going to be nearly as efficient as a larger reflector. Those lights are mounted in the worst possible place for seeing in inclement weather, the slightest bit of rain or snow in the air and you'll be blinded by backscatter. From their mounting position, those lights will illuminate your hood quite effectively. On a dark colored car this may not matter, but on a light colored car that'll be a big BRIGHTLY LIT area right in front of you..........causing your pupils to contract, destroying your night vision and making it much harder to see far(this is why running your fog lights is a bad idea if you're trying to see far at night). HID bulbs like to be turned on and left on, which makes them dramatically unsuited to high-beam operation, where they need to be flicked on and off frequently. Lastly, a person could buy some very good driving lights and upgrade their stock headlights and wiring, and come out very much less than $1270 even if they had to pay someone to do the work.
JMO. I'd still be interested in reading a review if anyone buys them. :buddies:
Reflectors that small aren't going to be nearly as efficient as a larger reflector. Those lights are mounted in the worst possible place for seeing in inclement weather, the slightest bit of rain or snow in the air and you'll be blinded by backscatter. From their mounting position, those lights will illuminate your hood quite effectively. On a dark colored car this may not matter, but on a light colored car that'll be a big BRIGHTLY LIT area right in front of you..........causing your pupils to contract, destroying your night vision and making it much harder to see far(this is why running your fog lights is a bad idea if you're trying to see far at night). HID bulbs like to be turned on and left on, which makes them dramatically unsuited to high-beam operation, where they need to be flicked on and off frequently. Lastly, a person could buy some very good driving lights and upgrade their stock headlights and wiring, and come out very much less than $1270 even if they had to pay someone to do the work.
JMO. I'd still be interested in reading a review if anyone buys them. :buddies:
Eh... The internal reflections in the windshield glass would be a nightmare.
On that same note, those edge-lit sheet-of-glass boards they use in restaurants and bars come to mind. You write on the glass with a crayon or something and the light hits the non-reflective area the wax creates, while bouncing off the clean areas of glass. Net effect being glowing letters on a black background.
In this case, the light would hit any little nick or imperfection in the glass. Or better yet, you hit a big moth some summer night and out of nowhere you've got a glowing bright yellow smear in the middle of your vision.
Nah, I'll stick to lights with their own lenses, thanks.
On that same note, those edge-lit sheet-of-glass boards they use in restaurants and bars come to mind. You write on the glass with a crayon or something and the light hits the non-reflective area the wax creates, while bouncing off the clean areas of glass. Net effect being glowing letters on a black background.
In this case, the light would hit any little nick or imperfection in the glass. Or better yet, you hit a big moth some summer night and out of nowhere you've got a glowing bright yellow smear in the middle of your vision.
Nah, I'll stick to lights with their own lenses, thanks.
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Yeah, that's good - could even be my "Post of the Day".Diesel_Bomber
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Not sure this would really be much of a problem. Those bar lights and signs shine the light in through the edges of the glass, I don't think shining light through the pane like a window would cause any problems. If it did then the windshield wouldn't work, it'd scatter light far too much to see through.
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PhotonWrangler
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Whenever I;m driving in bright sunlight I can see all of the little dings and scratches in my windshield. I'm pretty sure that a bright light mounted inside the vehicle would produce this effect to some extent.
This is easy enough to test with a portable HID light. If only we knew someone with such a device...
This is easy enough to test with a portable HID light. If only we knew someone with such a device...
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The experiment doesn't have to be HID, or even a windshield. Go shine your EDC on the closest window, holding it right up the to the glass. My SL PP Lux AA lights up some dust around 1/2" from the bezel, just like it would do in open air. Despite my other objections, I really don't think this would be a problem.
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scott.cr
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I think it's a nifty concept. I've always wondered how you could get some high-mounted auxillary lights in a sleek sedan without upsetting the exterior curves. (For a while I fantasized about mounting a set of rally lights and skidplate on the front of my Audi hahaha.)
This is not the "most stupidest" automotive lighting toy I've ever seen...
...but it's definitely one of the most stupidest. There are all kinds of problems with the concept. Let's start with the fact that the "clear" part of a windshield transmits approximately 67% of the light incident upon it, for example. If the area ahead of your rearview happens to have a deep blue or green sunshade tint, that's not only going to greatly aggravate the transmissivity problem, but also cause the beam output to be illegally and uselessly colored. And if we have 2x35w burners smack up against the windshield, we are likely to have problematic thermal gradients (=crack the windshield). There are also problems with the claims made for the device (the claim that they're HID/Xenon units, given their size, and if they are, there are going to be large EMI/RFI problems).
From what I can see, this is a "Lookit our keen product...and then invest in us because we need money!" type of deal at this point.
...but it's definitely one of the most stupidest. There are all kinds of problems with the concept. Let's start with the fact that the "clear" part of a windshield transmits approximately 67% of the light incident upon it, for example. If the area ahead of your rearview happens to have a deep blue or green sunshade tint, that's not only going to greatly aggravate the transmissivity problem, but also cause the beam output to be illegally and uselessly colored. And if we have 2x35w burners smack up against the windshield, we are likely to have problematic thermal gradients (=crack the windshield). There are also problems with the claims made for the device (the claim that they're HID/Xenon units, given their size, and if they are, there are going to be large EMI/RFI problems).
From what I can see, this is a "Lookit our keen product...and then invest in us because we need money!" type of deal at this point.
Caligvla
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I know just what I would use them for...
I have an Acura TSX, a you may know it by Honda Accord if you live outside N. America... It comes standard with very nice HIDs they are well focused but every now and then someone who is in on coming traffic acts like they never seen HIDs before and high beam me. I usually high beam them back... At this day in age it seems almost impossible for someone to not know what HIDs are... and in Los Angeles there shouldn't be any excuse at all... I think the people who high beam people with HIDs are just jealous... Anywayz, I think these would be prefect if they came on when I high beam them back... Let them get a taste of what blinding light really is... For me its worth paying the $1200 just to get back at those jerks.
Jarl
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Ever considered that maybe they've highbeamed you because your lights aren't focussed properly and are dazzling them?
I know, crazy, to think that people would highbeam you because there's actually a problem.... Yeah, they're just jealous. Can't be anything wrong with your car.
Caligvla
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Ever considered that maybe they've highbeamed you because your lights aren't focussed properly and are dazzling them?
I know, crazy, to think that people would highbeam you because there's actually a problem.... Yeah, they're just jealous. Can't be anything wrong with your car.
As I stated in the original post "my lights are well focused"
Focused, or aimed?
The projectors on my mom's '05 Subaru Outback came aimed almost perfectly level from the factory. While that gives the low beams nice range, it also means if you run over the slightest bump or crest the mildest of rises, the beam blinds oncoming traffic. Which is probably why the DE state (as do others I assume) motor vehicle code says the beam has to drop something like 4" in the first 20 feet.
The projectors on my mom's '05 Subaru Outback came aimed almost perfectly level from the factory. While that gives the low beams nice range, it also means if you run over the slightest bump or crest the mildest of rises, the beam blinds oncoming traffic. Which is probably why the DE state (as do others I assume) motor vehicle code says the beam has to drop something like 4" in the first 20 feet.
TorchBoy
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The idea of spending that much money to exact revenge probably doesn't deserve comment, but perhaps I should point out another rule CPF has. When I pointed out the trolling rule to you, perhaps you should have read the whole page.
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/Rules.html#disclaimer
You are talking about something quite different from getting another driver's attention. Deliberately dazzling another road user is illegal the world over.
Aside from being an assholeish thing to do, there's also a functional issue: They're HIDs, so there's the start-up lag and warm-up time to consider. You couldn't just flash back, you would have to switch your high beams on and leave them on. Dumb.
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