Westinghouse Nanolux

[Dave_H]

Anyone have experience with, or informed opinion on,
these Westinghouse E26 based LED lamps, particularly
the 3W white (03466/03492)? Bulk price is in the $5-$7 range.
Short on specs though.

http://www.westinghouselightbulbs.com/nanoluxled/products.php

Dave

 

[LED_Thrift]

Does anyone know where these are sold? I'd be willing to try them.

 

[Lightdoctor]

Anyone have experience with, or informed opinion on,
these Westinghouse E26 based LED lamps, particularly
the 3W white (03466/03492)? Bulk price is in the $5-$7 range.
Short on specs though.

http://www.westinghouselightbulbs.com/nanoluxled/products.php

Dave

These are really not Westinghouse products; they're made by Angelo Brothers Company (used to be known as ABCO Lighting) which sold relabeled Philips (North America) products or offshore junk from China or Korea. Not much better than L.O.A. (They may have improved their product, but last I saw it was the same stuff.)

 

[Dave_H]

These are really not Westinghouse products; they're made by Angelo Brothers Company (used to be known as ABCO Lighting) which sold relabeled Philips (North America) products or offshore junk from China or Korea. Not much better than L.O.A. (They may have improved their product, but last I saw it was the same stuff.)

Agreed on your earlier comment, why is LoA still in business...

Like many other established brand names Westinghouse
appears on all sorts of products it surely does not manufacture,
such as Christmas lights; not as bizarre as GE digital cameras.

Cutaway view of the Westinghouse LED bulb shows 7 small
(0.5W?) LEDs on what looks like metal baseplate. This should be better
than LoA etc. showerhead construction with LEDs standing up on
their leads, how much better is TBD. Depends on the LED quality,
driver, heatsinking etc.

Bulb description is short on specs like luminous output, colour
temperature, and the stated 50k hour life is suspicious; reminds me
of Ledshoppe usual claim of 40-hour battery life on many of their
flashlights.

Low price is a bit of concern. However, Sylvania 2W single
emitter bulb is now at $10, albeit at only 50L and 15k hour lifetime.

In the absence of actual reports I'd be game to try out at least
one, but don't need/want to buy in bulk. With $CDN just about
at par, a US source would not be bad if not for shipping and other
stuff that happens at borders, so I may look for a CDN source.

I know the LED purist folks normally don't settle for anything less
than genuine Crees (or equivalents). Somewhere there must be a lower
yet acceptable benefit/cost product that helps push domestic LED
lighting ahead outside of the DIY and high-cost specialized markets.
To me, a product that only breaks even but reduces energy demand
is surely worthwhile for some people.

A bit off-topic, has anyone seen the documentary on the interesting
life and achievements of George Westinghouse?

Dave

 

[LEDninja]

The picture is too fuzzy to be sure but they look more like 5mm High Flux Piranha LEDs than 0.5W SMD types. Multi-die (5mm type) with 4 legs.

Cutaway view of the Westinghouse LED bulb shows 7 small
(0.5W?) LEDs on what looks like metal baseplate. This should be better
than LoA etc. showerhead construction with LEDs standing up on
their leads, how much better is TBD. Depends on the LED quality,
driver, heatsinking etc.

With the Amazon price at $9.09 there should be no tax & brokerage issues. But the thing has to be shipped in a box which brings the shipping costs close to $20.

In the absence of actual reports I'd be game to try out at least
one, but don't need/want to buy in bulk. With $CDN just about
at par, a US source would not be bad if not for shipping and other
stuff that happens at borders, so I may look for a CDN source.

Warm white:
Luxeons 30 lumens per watt.
Cree XRE/SSC-P4 80 lumens per watt.
Cree XPG 100 lumens per watt.
Anything other than Cree is simply not bright enough for the money. Even current Cree at up to $50 can not compete with a 100W $2 incandescent.
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5 mm and high flux LEDs simply don't last unless used outdoors in winter.

I know the LED purist folks normally don't settle for anything less
than genuine Crees (or equivalents). Somewhere there must be a lower
yet acceptable benefit/cost product that helps push domestic LED
lighting ahead outside of the DIY and high-cost specialized markets.
To me, a product that only breaks even but reduces energy demand
is surely worthwhile for some people.

 

[blasterman]

Even current Cree at up to $50 can not compete with a 100W $2 incandescent.

Maybe because the world doesn't revolve around Cree. The drop bar I'm finishing up will top 3,000 lumens, is warm white, is costing me around $200, and will last 100k hours. It will also meet any specification you can invent.

However, this involves basic soldering and wiring skills, and doesn't require the ability to constantly post links telling us what we already know.

.....And if I honestly told you what I thought about your comment about the $2.00 incan I'd get banned. Maybe you can sell a 100volt verison that lasts 100 hours and get it ECE certified. :thumbsup:

 

[LEDninja]

People are sensitive to the initial cost of things, not the total cost over say 10 years.
That $2 light bulb produces 1400 to 1600 lumens.
An equivalent 27W CFL is close to $10.
An off the shelf LED (Evolux) is $50 but by the time the OP or I get one it is closer to $90 due to shipping, taxes and custom brokerage fees.
$200 is major sticker shock for most people.

blasterman you build the Ferrari of LED lighting. But like the car there are 2 problems. 1st is the sticker shock mentioned above. 2nd is availability. You seem to be building your product one at a time. How long will it take you to re-lamp the 100 million homes in North America? Until you get around to us or go into mass production, we are stuck with buying what is available at local retail stores.

My emphasis with Cree is that for off the shelf items, that is the best we can get. 80 lumens per watt at the LED.
Take 1 step back and we get Luxeons at 30 lumens per watt. 40% of the output of Crees.
Take 2 steps back and we get 5mm arrays with '100,000 hour life'. :mecry:
The mass production factories do not seem to want to use Bridgelux or Luminus whose LEDs may be more suited to high power applications.

 

[Dave_H]

Maybe because the world doesn't revolve around Cree. The drop bar I'm finishing up will top 3,000 lumens, is warm white, is costing me around $200, and will last 100k hours. It will also meet any specification you can invent.

Whatever does this have to do with the topic... low cost
replacement of screw-in bulbs equivalent to 25W incan. or
less...diametrically opposite to custom/high-cost solutions.

Dave