What is missing?

[donn_]

flashfiend, Raoul_Duke & copperfox,
Unfortunately, due to lack of interest, there will not be any reproduction of old or new M*g turbo head.
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That's a real pity. I'm not sure how you come to the conclusion there is a lack of interest. I think the FM3H is the most perfectly designed 3" Mag head to date, and would love to see the results of a feeler/prepay on another run of this gorgeous head. Make it the same as the original, and leave off the flowery bezel ring. :hitit:

 

[fivemega]

That's a real pity. I'm not sure how you come to the conclusion there is a lack of interest.

Edit:

By monitoring slow activity and sells of this thread and lack of enough interest, there will not be any reproduction of old or new M*g turbo head.

Donn,
I appreciate your and other's support of M*g 3" head. But I think market is already saturated and most newbes are LED fan.
This is example for lack of enough interest. Only 13 M*g PAR36 head.
However, I am ready to make anything that would sell in reasonable time frame.

 

[donn_]

Donn,
I appreciate your and other's support of M*g 3" head. But I think market is already saturated and most newbes are LED fan.
This is example for lack of enough interest. Only 13 M*g PAR36 head.
However, I am ready to make anything that would sell in reasonable time frame.

Varooj..with all due respect (and I have a great deal of respect for you and the innovative products you have brought to us), I think you have gone beyond us with the style of many of your items. Flowery bezel rings and the "exotic" designs of the latest multi-26500 tubes do not fit our market.

The original FM3H was perfect. The deep fins and bands of knurling with a straight bezel ring, are one of the most beautiful designs for an enlarged Mag head ever created. If you offered a similar bezel ring, to replace the flower petal ring on the rest of my 3" heads, I'd buy one for each of them. I have a dozen of your 3" heads, and none please me as much as these:

 

[lemlux]

Varooj:

I tend to agree with Don. I have only two of your 3" heads, and they are both 3H's. I prefer them to your other 3" heads by a considerable margin. Right now I'm trying to decide between buying a removable cam 3" reflector, a 2.5" throwmaster, or a deep reflector for my recently purchased M*gFire.

I will soon receive a Nailbender Mag 1D mod with an SST-50 with a 5 Amp regulated controller capable of running on 5-24 volts. I can drive it for a short time with a 4aa-1D holder and 4 14500's or for longer times with other batteries and the 88mm D extension tube I recently bought from you. I'd love to see more D extension tubles available so that I could fine tune my extension options.

I'd be more inclined to buy a 3" camless reflector if the opening was 16mm to accomodate either an SST-50 or SST-90 -- That addresses the move toward LEDs you mention. The current 1/2" opening is an inbetween size that is less appealing to me for G4 bulbs than openings of 8.5mm to 10.0 mm.

I can offer another possible reason for your slow moving PAR36 sales. There are relatively easy mod choices on older bodies that can use PAR36 bulbs. For example, I have adapted both a Big Beam #166 and a Dacor UL-800 to use PAR36's. These compact top-grip small lanterns can carry battery packs that power a PAR36 much longer than a D tube. I would be interested in a 4*26650 battery carrier with terminals that I could drop into thise lights.

 

[lctorana]

Hi Varooj,

With the release of the IMR 14500 cells, I would like to see some means of powering the WA1274 in a MiniMag. Some sort of custom bulbholder/bezel/switch arrangement. (The 1274 will make maximum use of the3A cell rating, and could turn a stock-looking MM into a surprise.)

 

[Rommul]

That's a real pity. I'm not sure how you come to the conclusion there is a lack of interest. I think the FM3H is the most perfectly designed 3" Mag head to date, and would love to see the results of a feeler/prepay on another run of this gorgeous head. Make it the same as the original, and leave off the flowery bezel ring. :hitit:

I want to second this.

FM I have a bunch of your products and will buy more when finances allow. But personally I think the slow movement of the FM 3" heads comes down to some design decisions and color choices.

I would love to have a an original FM3H in black (I know you aren't a fan of the color).

BTW I am an LED guy and that hasn't stopped from acquiring an FM3X, a Throwmaster and five 2" deep reflectors (both ver1 and 2).

Alot of the stuff you have works great with LED mods.

 

[QtrHorse]

I agree with Donn as well. The only reason I do not buy more of your complete lights is because of the odd designs and especially the flower bezels that you seem to put on all your heads.

My favorite item of yours is the 1x26??? C head bodies you make are great. They are still just a little busy but well worth it.

One of my other favorites is the Magfire body and the pre-pay Mag HAIII heads you made that are finned and fluted. Both of the items are fairly basic but still have a little custom features.

I would really like to see a very basic in design short 3x18650 and 6x18650 body that uses a Mag head. I like your Elephant body idea but it has too much going on for me. You have the new Megalennium body as well I would still like to see something similar to a Mag body.

 

[copperfox]

Fivemega, you're saying that you won't build more masculine looking, black turboheads because there aren't enough people buying red, blue, and purple flowery style turboheads?! :duh2:

Do you notice how the black *anything* you make always sells out first? Most of us don't want chrome/multicolored parts, most of us just want black. I'm willing to bet that Maglite (for which most of your mods are made) sold ten times as many black flashlights as every other color combined. Most CPFers have black maglites that they want to mod. We don't want to put a purple turbohead on a black body, it looks silly. I know you said before you don't like black flashlight parts, but if it's your intention to make money, shouldn't you be producing what is going to sell the most? It seems like you are looking at the total number of a particular part that you have left in stock and you just figure "well I guess there isn't enough interest." You need to start paying attention to which colors are the ones that are left.

This stylish stuff has got to go. Give us more matte finish, black hard anodized parts with straight cuts and angles. No more inverse curves, teardrop shapes, and flower petal bezels. I'm sorry to sound so harsh. I really like some of your products; I own three of your parts even though my collection is small. I don't know where you're from, but here in the US we can be very picky about styling, and especially sensitive to (and not inclined to purchase for ourselves) things that look feminine.

 

[Rommul]

I agree with copperfox about the color selection but I do think there is a place for stylish parts .There are a number of reasons why some items don't move.

One example is these.

I don't really care for the styling at all but I would buy one of these lights in colors other than black if I could find heads that match.

If I were to buy say the gray one I would have to take the head off my FM700L in order to have a matching head but then I have one less complete light. I would even be willing to buy the black one but then I would be stuck putting a stock head on it that has "MAGLITE" etched on the bezel (this issuse also extends to the version 2 2" deep reflectors).

These lights need a matching supply of heads and that's an oversight that makes those lights hard to purchase.

One of the things I love about FM products is the details like machining off the letters on the bezel for lights that will be anodised. It gives the lights a totally custom look. I also think (can't prove) that the anodising on FM's light are much thicker and durable that other lights. The color matching is also excellent of his lights.

In closing I like parts that color match well. Most of my Mag stuff is black but I am willing to buy other colored parts that that match well in terms of color.

 

[gswitter]

I appreciate your and other's support of M*g 3" head. But I think market is already saturated and most newbes are LED fan.

So appeal to the LED fans.

How about a 3" reflector compatible with your existing 3" heads with 16mm opening and narrow, tapered and insulated underside (like your recent 2" deep reflector run)?

Your 2" deep reflector w/16mm opening paired with an SST-90 is phenomenal. I'm really curious to see the same build with a decent VLOP (or maybe even an SMO) 3" reflector. I'm just not quite ready to hack up one of your existing reflectors yet. :o

 

[Billy Ram]

I said it before you need to grab one before it's too late.

I got mine.
It does look like black is a more popular color and one easier to match.
Billy

 

[donn_]

I don't know if it's been said before, but we need an adapter to mate C-Mag tubes to D-Mag and FM D-Mag heads.

 

[flashfiend]

I may be really late responding to this thread but I will have to support and agree with some of the comments regarding styling and color as well as some of the technical comments. From the reading it sounds like FM does not like the color black, which would be fine if matching items were offered to complete the hosts available. For example, I actually liked the x26500 exotic M@g hosts but found it difficult to purchase in a color other than black due to lack of availability of matching heads. I'll also have to agree with the dislike for the flower bezel. I'm not that big of a fan of the styling and it makes the beam ugly at the edges. I have a black 3" FM3H-3 head for a black Elephant II and a GM Gray 2.5" Throwmaster put on a black Exotic M@g body that I wish did not have the flower bezel. Additionally, I found that the 16mm opening on the reflectors still maintains their functionality for both LEDs and Incans. For example, I bought both the ver2 Deep reflector (8.5mm opening) and the 16mm Deep reflector. I bought one for incan and one for LED. Later on I discovered that the 16mm worked with incan just as well as with LED to my lament because I did a relatively poor job of enlarging the 8.5mm to fit an Osram 64275 bulb.

Overall, I am satisfied with FM's products but a few design changes would have made me 'perfectly' happy with them.

 

[flashfiend]

If you offered a similar bezel ring, to replace the flower petal ring on the rest of my 3" heads, I'd buy one for each of them.

+1 to the above as well. I would love to be able to replace the flower bezel on both my FM3H-3 and my 2.5" Throwmaster.

 

[YAK-28]

how about a simple, good looking and secure clamp or set of blocks for a shoulder strap/sling for a m*g lite, that might have one or two of your extensions on? i have a 6d with your new par 36 4.5" head that needs some help.

 

[donn_]

how about a simple, good looking and secure clamp or set of blocks for a shoulder strap/sling for a m*g lite, that might have one or two of your extensions on? i have a 6d with your new par 36 4.5" head that needs some help.

Look at guitar straps. Plenty strong enough to handle a large light, and more design options than you can shake a stick at.

 

[YAK-28]

the straps i have, i just can't picture a good way to attach one. the rest of the light looks nice so far, i was hoping to attach in 2 spots(similar to an x21 sling)

 

[ShineOnYouCrazyDiamond]

This:

http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=287197

 

[fivemega]

The original FM3H was perfect. The deep fins and bands of knurling with a straight bezel ring, are one of the most beautiful designs for an enlarged Mag head ever created. If you offered a similar bezel ring, to replace the flower petal ring on the rest of my 3" heads, I'd buy one for each of them.

Financially , I am not in situation to stock more 3" heads but will consider about original FM3H/FM3V replacement bezel if there are more interest.
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I'd love to see more D extension tubles available so that I could fine tune my extension options.

More M*g "D" extension tubes are in future list.
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With the release of the IMR 14500 cells, I would like to see some means of powering the WA1274 in a MiniMag. Some sort of custom bulbholder/bezel/switch arrangement. (The 1274 will make maximum use of the3A cell rating, and could turn a stock-looking MM into a surprise.)

As I mentioned on other thread, I had similar idea for Mini M*g ROP but overal cost of complete package kit makes me hesitate this project.
A complete kit will include bulb, bulb holder (socket), aluminum reflector and Boro lens.
All parts must be custom made and none of them are available anywhere else.
How many people will spend say $70 for Mini M*g and not to mention batteries are not in price.
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I would love to have a an original FM3H in black (I know you aren't a fan of the color).

Original FM3H and FM3V came in black only. You can check how slow were moving and how long I had to wait to get my money back.
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One of my other favorites is the Magfire body and the pre-pay Mag HAIII heads you made that are finned and fluted. Both of the items are fairly basic but still have a little custom features.

And we know how little people bought finned/flutted M*g "D" head.
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I would really like to see a very basic in design short 3x18650 and 6x18650 body that uses a Mag head. I like your Elephant body idea but it has too much going on for me. You have the new Megalennium body as well I would still like to see something similar to a Mag body.

This is exactly original Elephant you are taliking about. Right?
3x18650 version and 6x18650 version.
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Do you notice how the black *anything* you make always sells out first? Most of us don't want chrome/multicolored parts, most of us just want black.

I have made many black head or bodies but not necessarily sold out fast.
Magfire are available in hard black and hard gray only.
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I don't really care for the styling at all but I would buy one of these lights in colors other than black if I could find heads that match.

Some people may want to use 3" for that body while other person may like deep 2" or 2.5" ThrowMaster. It's hard to anticipate which option and which color they are in.
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So appeal to the LED fans.

LED modification is much more time consuming than incan mode and I don't really have time for testing each new creation.
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I don't know if it's been said before, but we need an adapter to mate C-Mag tubes to D-Mag and FM D-Mag heads.

This is another in list item. :thumbsup:
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I don't know if it's been said before, but we need an adapter to mate C-Mag tubes to D-Mag and FM D-Mag heads.

This is another in list item.
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This:
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=287197

This would be interesting project for a kit of containing a bezel removal tool, bi-focal SMO reflector with possibility of using 5761 and UCL lens in KT-4 head.
How many people interested?

 

[flashfiend]

Thanks for replying FM. I hope more interest gets generated for bezel replacements. I'd be in for one for my FM3H-3 and I know it would be a pain but if you made one for the 2.5" Throwmaster I'd be in for one of those as well.

Btw, I'm not sure how well it works for other bulbs but your 16mm deep reflector for LEDs worked well with my Osram 64275 and Philips 5761 Mag C Host. And of course it works fantastic with an SST-90 mounted on Britelumens heatsink. I wonder how it compares in throw with the Rebel Deep reflector people are starting to use for their LED mods. AFAIK, that reflector is plastic and I much prefer your all metal solution.