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What\'s the brightest LED light using AA batt\'s?

At our house we've standardized on AA alkalines whenever possible due to the outstanding prices we've gotten on boxes of 100 from zbattery.com (lowest were 22 cents apiece!). My question to you folks is: what's the brightest LED flashlight I can get that's driven by AA's? Regulated output isn't essential but definitely would be a plus. The NUMBER of AA's used in the light isn't too important. I can't help but think I'm overlooking something really good...
 
Re: What\'s the brightest LED light using AA batt\'s?

My brightest AA LED is a 3 Watt LS mod.

It is a 5 Watt cyan LS mounted on a BB500 in a Brinkman 2AA flashlight.

You can get the boards in Wayne's Sanwich shop. He makes great stuff.
 
Re: What\'s the brightest LED light using AA batt\'s?

I'm guessing that a CMG Reactor 3 might do here.
It uses 3 AA cells, and is brighter than most other multi-LED lights because it uses a white Luxeon Star lamp.
I've heard though, that the Reactor 3 might have that characteristic "rotten cat urine green" color to it, but CMG has a very good return/exchange policy if you get a green one.
 
Re: What\'s the brightest LED light using AA batt\'s?

Have you ever considered going Ni-MH? IMO, that is the way to go. Not only do you wind up paying less, but you don't pollute either. I have my Streamlight 4AA loaded with Ni-MH right now, and it is very nice. Carry a set of alkaline AAs as backup, and you're golden.

Also, I believe you can do better than $0.22 apiece for AAs elsewhere online...

Yes here it is:
http://www.cheapbatteries.com/
$0.15 apiece for Kodak Alkalines if you buy 100+ batts. It is about 1/5 of the way down the page. They also have 1800 mAh Ni-MH's for $2.00 apiece, for 4+, which is bloody good when you see how much they cost in the store...
 
Re: What\'s the brightest LED light using AA batt\'s?

Whoops, now to actually attempt an answer to your question. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I haven't had a ton of experience, so I will just give you my speculations on what experience I have. My Streamlight 4AA is very bright, has a very good flood, and decent throw on account of the hotspot.

The new Streamlight 3AA Luxeon Star is probably brighter, but with a tighter beam and shorter battery/LED life.

Either of those lights is reasonably priced enough to seriously consider it. I would highly recommend the Streamlight 4AA based on my experience.

Here's a link to my mini review on it:

http://www.candlepowerforums.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB16&Number=261850&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1
 
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Re: What\'s the brightest LED light using AA batt\'s

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Smaug said:
Have you ever considered going Ni-MH? IMO, that is the way to go. Not only do you wind up paying less, but you don't pollute either. I have my Streamlight 4AA loaded with Ni-MH right now, and it is very nice. Carry a set of alkaline AAs as backup, and you're golden.

Also, I believe you can do better than $0.22 apiece for AAs elsewhere online...

Yes here it is:
http://www.cheapbatteries.com/
$0.15 apiece for Kodak Alkalines if you buy 100+ batts. It is about 1/5 of the way down the page. They also have 1800 mAh Ni-MH's for $2.00 apiece, for 4+, which is bloody good when you see how much they cost in the store...

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Smaug said:
Whoops, now to actually attempt an answer to your question. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I haven't had a ton of experience, so I will just give you my speculations on what experience I have. My Streamlight 4AA is very bright, has a very good flood, and decent throw on account of the hotspot.

The new Streamlight 3AA Luxeon Star is probably brighter, but with a tighter beam and shorter battery/LED life.

Either of those lights is reasonably priced enough to seriously consider it. I would highly recommend the Streamlight 4AA based on my experience.

Here's a link to my mini review on it:

http://www.candlepowerforums.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB16&Number=261850&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1

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Smaug, thanks for the link to an alternate cheap battery supplier! Have you bought from cheapbatteries.com, and are they reputable? Do they sell authentic merchandise? I had a bad experience a couple years ago in which an online site sold me fake Energizer AA alkalines then stole my credit card number to rack up fraudulent purchases! Based on that, I've been sort of conservative in my choice of battery supplier. Probably scarred. So, is cheapbatteries known to be 100% legit?

The reason I've stayed away from NiMH is twofold. First, I don't like their tendency to lose their charge over time. I tend to use my flashlights sporadically, so they might sit for some time between uses, but when I need them I want to be able to grab them and have them run at full capability. That's why I've loved using lithium AA's in some of my lights in the past, though others would burn up on them. (Learned that the hard way once.) I've been under the impression that NiMH would let me down in the "sit and wait, then run full bore" department. Second, I was under the impression that NiMH doesn't provide the same runtime as alkalines? Although maybe the newer, higher-capacity ones do?

(Oh yes, third possible problem with NiMH would be that I wanted a power source that would remain available in an extended power outage. I live in the boonies and we sometimes get an such things, hence no way to recharge the batteries...)

I don't know; maybe I'm just a total freak.
 
Re: What\'s the brightest LED light using AA batt\'s

I wonder if there is a 2 AA light brighter than the MadMax+.
It's a light worth looking into. (pun intended)
And it's voltage regulated.
 
Re: What\'s the brightest LED light using AA batt\'s

You can always try to run a Space Needle II off of 6AAs, if you're willing to do so, and if you can get the SNII into a D body... Should be the brightest AA-based LED you can find...
 
Re: What\'s the brightest LED light using AA batt\'s

Otherwise, you can put 6AAs into a 2D body to drive a Helios module from Inretech... 15Ws of collimated power is quite nice...
 
Re: What\'s the brightest LED light using AA batt\'s

FalconFX,

Remember to budget hearing protection for the Helios using AA batteries. The sucking sound caused by the Helios draining the AA batteries may be dangerously loud. I do have to admit it will be bright and it will use AA batteries. It will also be much lighter than the 5/6D cell flashlight we recommend.

We prefer that you use our AA Mini-MAG adapter for AA battery use. It is a good direct-drive light that should last just about forever if moderately well cared for. There are brighter lights that will suck AA batteries faster, though.

Of course, if you are serious about having a bin full of dead batteries large enough to hide bodies in, you could use our MEGA6 product. If you have 30W of AA sponge, you should be able to qualify for all kinds of volume discounts!
 
Re: What\'s the brightest LED light using AA batt\'s

Patrick, since I've gone to the 6AA mode for the Helios, I never went back... Reachargeable AAs in that guy is so cost-effective, I'm running the Helios as liberally as I'd like without worryin' about batteries... Not to mention that the 2D light is so easy to carry, and you have a huge winner...

Very convenient...
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FalconFX said:
...you can put 6AAs into a 2D body to drive a Helios module from Inretech...

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What is the runtime of this configuration?
 
Re: What\'s the brightest LED light using AA batt\'s

Well, I got so interested in some threads here on CPF that I've been up most of the night! Not good. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif Guess it's my initiation into being a *real* CPF'er? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

What about SL Task Light 3AA Luxeon? Or EL Blaster VI running off 6AA? Anyone have experience with these? Is the former anywhere sorta kinda remotely close to the brightness of my LGI? And will the latter really give me 2 hours of quality runtime as I've read elsewhere?
 
Re: What\'s the brightest LED light using AA batt\'s

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shankus said:
I wonder if there is a 2 AA light brighter than the MadMax+.
It's a light worth looking into. (pun intended)
And it's voltage regulated.

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I thought the MadMax+ was a regulator module? Or are you referring to a particular flashlight?
 
Re: What\'s the brightest LED light using AA batt\'s

Shankus, with alkalines (Costco brands), I get just about an hour of runtime (50-60 minutes or so) before it starts dimming quickly. With a set of Maha 2.2Ahs, I get a little over an hour before it starts dimming (70-75 minutes)... I haven't actually tested until the batteries were completely dead, though; only to the point where light production's unacceptable for it being a Helios... Plus, each time I do a runtime test on this guy with AAs, I'm getting runtimes that can vary by more than 15 minutes or so... Almost like a crapshot of the types of batteries used...
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Re: What\'s the brightest LED light using AA batt\'s

Not bad at all. Like you said, rechargeables make it cost effective.
Looks like I've got another Inretech adapter to buy when I find work....

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milkyspit said:
I thought the MadMax+ was a regulator module? Or are you referring to a particular flashlight?

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Yes, it is a module.
 
Re: What\'s the brightest LED light using AA batt\'s

milkyspit,

The MadMax is a regulated Luxeon adapter for the Mini-MAG 2AA flashlight and probably the best alternative to our adapter for non-survival uses. While it could theoretically be made very bright, it is kept at a reasonable level to prevent thermal failure. Putting a lot of power into electronic components that do not have the heatsinking necessary to dissipate that power is BAD.

FalconFX,

It looks like we're going to have to start displaying your method at shows. If it is silly and it works, it isn't silly! I bet we could come up with a way to run the TRILIGHT safely as well. Hmmmm...a lot of customers have been asking about the 2D, I guess we're going to have to make them happy!

shankus,

Good luck in finding work. We have HELIOS adapters waiting for you. Please note that the people at InReTech are always developing new products and that we will have more interesting things soon.
 
Re: What\'s the brightest LED light using AA batt\'s

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shipinretech said:
The MadMax is a regulated Luxeon adapter for the Mini-MAG 2AA flashlight and probably the best alternative to our adapter for non-survival uses.

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Patrick,

Your product line looks great. It's only a matter of time before I pick up one for myself. (Need approval from the big boss, a.k.a. my wife.)

What do you mean by best for "non-survival" uses? Do you mean survival use would involve direct drive for greater reliability? Or that you'd want much better battery life? I'm confused.
 
Re: What\'s the brightest LED light using AA batt\'s

Well, I`ll try to stay on topic. I`m sure the brightest would be one built by our own modders here in the forum. But other than that the Streamlight 3 AA LS is the brightest beam for the buck. As I`m sure you know some have a yellow-greenish tint to them. But most seem to be nice...mine is. It is my brightest LED by far, looks great, feels great, nice switch...I love the darn thing. If you are willing to roll the dice as far as the beam color goes...thats the one to get.

Ken
 

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