Who still carries a Surefire E2e?

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How many of you still carry a standard, unmodified Surefire E2e for EDC?

Do you think it's obsolete now?

I had one until I got an L4, then traded it. All the cool new Surefires keep getting bigger every year! It wasn't too bad going from the E2e to L4, then the A2 grew more, now the L2, which I would love to have, except that it grew yet again! The L1 was also too big for having one cell. I wish Surefire would reverse this trend. The amazement when you opened a Surefire box and saw how tiny the light was is a feeling I would like to experience once more.

Now I'm going to get another E2e because there is nothing else that is so bright, yet so small. Although I love my A2, there are times I would like to carry something smaller that's brighter than my Arc LS. I've also been finding that LEDs can't light up objects well at a distance even if it can throw that far. Details just tend to get washed out.
 
I carry an unmodded E2e almost every day. I too, was impressed with the high output of such a compact light. I feel the E series of lights is far from being obsolete, due to the versatility. In fact, at times the E2e can be too bright in confined spaces. Perhaps a MN02 lamp would help eleviate this situation???
 
I don't think it is obsolete in general, but in my collection it is.

I have several E2 and E2e host bodies with all kinds of weird stuff on the service end. I have sold off all my incandescent bezels. Honestly, I don't miss them. I DO have LED lights that throw as far, and beyond. CRI is probably the thing I miss most about incandescents. But in my mind, everything else is superior in my LED lights, so I suffer that one loss.

I do remember the day I opened my first E2, however. And I had the same feeling you did. A feeling I won't soon forget. The E2 was my first real flashlight. Up until then, I was king of the Minimag! I still keep a Minimag around to compare everything against. Laughter is good for the soul.
 
I still carry my E2e, sometimes with KL1 and sometimes with original MN03 incand. I was lucky to have tried my friend's L4 but after some comparison with the E2e I find that the L4 is only as good as a general flood light with not much throw like the MN03 to spot details. The MN03 on the E2e contains a decent amount of flood for me to see in a darkened room and I think that is enough. I am using KL1 at times for the longer 4 hours run-time and when that happens my E2D is always with me so I get a choice of either KL1+E2e for general illumination or E2D for more throw.

I have tried and was initially impressed by the PR head by McLux and although it can throw very well, the bigger head is not so comfortable for EDC. The detail spotting is also not so good compared to incand as there is no red present. No doubt good but still leave very much to be desired.
 
Up until a few weeks ago I carried an E2O with MN03 on a daily basis. It just fits in the back pocket so easy. Good power to size ratio. Now I have an E2D and I carry it daily instead, but with a beamshaper on it. It has excellent flood that way (and protects the pocket) and if I need throw or teeth I just pop off the beamshaper. An E2O with KL1 and beamshaper gives the whitest light I've ever seen from a handheld light (including LUX III's). It's odd how the purplish and greenish low dome KL1 really comes into it's own with a beamshaper. It's the perfect map reading light on a road trip.
 
I still carry a E2e, but that is only because my L4 is on backorder for 2months allready /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif
I love how small and yet powerfull it is, and it has just the throw i need.
Shame it isn't regulated.
The L4 should replace my E2e, however when reading some of the replies here i might change my mind.
 
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I still carry the E2E EDC, just like the size
and beam. Sometimes there is an KL1 on it, but
not very often ...

Cheers
Ralf
 
I carry an E2 with an E2e bezel all the time. Don't care for the pocket clip on the E2e (or the look of it without). This combination allows for the same output in the exact same size package, yet provides for a smooth, rounded, easy-to-hold form factor.
 
I have all kinds of cool Surefires LS, I like the new KL-1 high Luxeon in my E2e, also a E2o with PR T by McGizmo, the new McGizmo L-1 PR T 917, I also have a E2+ (Nascar) and others.
However for sentimental reasons I still carry quite often a Winelight II with a MN03 lamp. I just love this light.

Juan C.
 
i carry a E2 Satin Gray with me.. Xenon is better than LEDs, LEDs use lower voltage and you get longer run time.. Xenon is a MUST if want to Shoot Far, like those on a SureFire M6..
Your Question: Do you think it's obsolete now?
My Answer: if it's obsolete why are we still using it? Luxeon-Stars LED cannot over power a Xenon Power Light..


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How many of you still carry a standard, unmodified Surefire E2e for EDC?

Do you think it's obsolete now?

I had one until I got an L4, then traded it. All the cool new Surefires keep getting bigger every year! It wasn't too bad going from the E2e to L4, then the A2 grew more, now the L2, which I would love to have, except that it grew yet again! The L1 was also too big for having one cell. I wish Surefire would reverse this trend. The amazement when you opened a Surefire box and saw how tiny the light was is a feeling I would like to experience once more.

Now I'm going to get another E2e because there is nothing else that is so bright, yet so small. Although I love my A2, there are times I would like to carry something smaller that's brighter than my Arc LS. I've also been finding that LEDs can't light up objects well at a distance even if it can throw that far. Details just tend to get washed out.

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I raise my hand for still carrying an E2e. Although I must also say that depending on my requirements / mood / a change in the air etc /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif I choose between my E2e, L4 (running pilas of course /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/buttrock.gif ), E2d and E1e, all unmodified. Perhaps this is because I have yet to physically sight modded executive lights etc, but I am very happy with my current setup /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbsup.gif The main thing about my e2e that I like is because I also have the L4 and E1e, if I lose my e2e, I can make another E2e up in a jiffy /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif with a spare MN03, my E1's bezel and my L4's body and either tailcap /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

Thanks for the tip Stingray about how you carry your E2d: I thought I was going to have to put up a WTB for a black e2e bezel /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif does it affect the pocket carry of the e2d much (I'd prefer keeping the original beam though)?
 
I still carry my E2e. I do have a Arc LSHP-F that is a really nice little light, but it doesn't have the throw the E2e does. I trade back and forth, but really do like the E2e.
 
As a newcomer to the SureFire owners group, I'm quite pleased with the combination of attributes the E2e (or E2) features. The beam spread/throw ratio is very useful for my purposes. It's a pleasure to own such a well made tool. I still like my Scorpion, especially the switch, but maybe the birthday fairy will bring me a Z57.

How can the price/size/output/build quality ratio be improved upon? It probably can't. A smaller light won't have an E2's runtime if it's as bright and a mod will be more expensive. For me, the E2e epitomizes a small, top-shelf, production, flashlight. I'm glad I took the SureFire plunge all of you said that I should take.
 
I EDC the E2e for work. When I need more light I bump up to my 9P or M3.

GregR
 
well i sorta edc mine.

i got rid of all my surefires save for my black e2 (i dispise the elite series for many reasons) which fills a crucial place in my edc. its a stellar spotlight wen my arc4SX wont quite reach. i generally keep it in my pack or laptop bag. it is the one surefire i am really happy to own.

i used to own about a thousand dollars worth of surefires but in the past year since they changed their format i have become increasingly disatisfied with them.

they have forgotten their mission to make a small bright light that is built for the tactical eviron. they make lights that are about over the top aesetics and novelty now and focus on selling to the armchair swat rather than equiping the real thing.
blatent proof of this are the u2 and a2. a reged incand is neat but wen you are runing off of liths its not all that useful. im still trying to figure out how one might make the u2 into anything but an anoyance.

as a user i am baffled by their motto of smaller brighter better wen in reality they really arent all that small , have horrid beams and seem to have no idea how to make an led light (its not that hard). my bud has a L5 and while i was impressed with the output i think the guy in charge of beam shape should be shot. i think the whole reflecter department should only be allowed to work with incands and sf should hire someone who knows something about leds to do the led reflectors. all i could think is "how come they waste output by hiding non existant bulb artifacts?!" .

forgive me the rant . i just am unhappy to see a such a good company go to pot like this.
 
I "still" EDC the original E2 with its non-lockout tailcap, and with the clip removed. The slight difference in length without the lock-out tailcap is important to me.
 
Do you mean to say that you are using the Z57 clickie? I don't think I understand what you mean. The E2e came originally with the lock-out tail cap and the Z57 clickie can be bought seperately.
 
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