Will Scolo work with dynohub?

brotherdan

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I want a decent led light to run off my shimano dynohub for my touring/commuting bike. The scolos look like they are just what I am looking for. They're small and appear to be plenty bright to illuminate the road. And of course they're really cheap. I'm thinking a dual setup would be pretty nice. I just don't know if they'll run off of a dynohub. I think the voltage and amperage should be about sufficient, but are there any other variables that I should consider?

I know the scolo requires DC, so I'll have to build a rectifier to operate them, right?
 
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LEDs make ideal dynamo lights.
For the scolo you would need to remove the driver from each lighthead and add your own rectifier. Depending on how its made that might be easy or hard.
See Martins page for some details on rectifiers.
A better bet may be starting with one of those triple led flashlight from dealextreme.

Or you could build everything from scratch. :thumbsup:
 
:welcome:

LEDs make ideal dynamo lights.
For the scolo you would need to remove the driver from each lighthead and add your own rectifier. Depending on how its made that might be easy or hard.
See Martins page for some details on rectifiers.
A better bet may be starting with one of those triple led flashlight from dealextreme.

Or you could build everything from scratch. :thumbsup:

Thanks.

I guess I'll go ahead with the diy project I'd been planning. I already purchased two cree Q5s from dealextreme a month or two ago. But they've just been sitting around the house because I'm a little daunted about trying to put everything together. My soldering experience is very limited and I don't know if I have the proper tools to work with aluminum tubing.

By the way, why would I have to remove the driver from the scolos? My thought was that I could build a rectifier in a separate box and just connect that to the scolos. Would the driver not work with the current produced by the dynohub?
 
..By the way, why would I have to remove the driver from the scolos? My thought was that I could build a rectifier in a separate box and just connect that to the scolos. Would the driver not work with the current produced by the dynohub?

The drivers are designed to operate from a constant voltage. They feed a constant current into the LEDs. In order to do this, a variable current is drawn from the constant voltage source (the battery).

A dynamo instead delivers a mostly constant current at a widely varying voltage. As the driver tries to pump current into the LEDs, it's input current rises and consequently its input voltage drops. Naturally the driver tries to draw more current from the dynamo, so the driver's input voltage drops further to a point where it's not capable of drawing more than what the dynamo delivers.

On the other hand, if the driver ever reaches the target LED current, it will reduce the input current but then the input voltage increases, so that the driver has to further reduce input current. If the load is little, a dynamo may well deliver 50V or more, so this could burn something up, depending on the architecture of the driver.

While dynamo-powering LED drivers that are made for running from a battery will probably run some current through the LEDs, it is inefficient and risky for the driver circuit. A dedicated dynamo driver circuit is the better way.

What you could however do, is connect a rectifier to the dynamo and a battery to the rectifier output, then attach your existing drivers to the battery. It's not as efficient as a dedicated LED driver, but you get permanent light, even when stopped. Obviously, battery charge management is a bit of an issue, it could happen that you discharge the battery faster than you charge it or vice versa. If you're not careful, this either leaves you without light and a deep discharged battery or with a hot, overcharged battery (so don't try LiIon, it burns on overcharge). If you are using relatively large NiCd or NiMH, they will still last a while.
 
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@ Martin: what will happen when you use a 'de-castrated' non-hub dynamo (zener diodes removed)?
 
Same thing, cyberscenic. It's a current source and doesn't match well to a load that's expecting a voltage source.
 

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