Will this HID set work for Thor mod?

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I am looking to do a Thor HID mod, I know I need an H4 HID bulb and a ballast but I was hoping if you guys could help let me know if these are ok options:

50 watt kit here: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001TANDQI/?tag=cpf0b6-20

Or to make it cheaper:

35 W Ballast: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B008VGM51W/?tag=cpf0b6-20

with http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001VILJ8C/?tag=cpf0b6-20

Also maybe order a bulb from here: http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-HID-Bulbs...Parts_Accessories&hash=item3cb5061dbb&vxp=mtr

And this ballast: http://www.ebay.com/itm/35W-HID-REP...Parts_Accessories&hash=item35be8d87d5&vxp=mtr

I know 4300K is a better pure white but couldn't find any on Amazon. Anyhow anything else I need (besides a spacer?). I tried searching but couldn't find if anyone put up a guide on how to do it. Anyone know of such a thing?

Thanks!
 
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A 55 Watt "fast Bright" brand ballast and bulb kit is what I would do. 5000K color temp. It will give you about 50 Watts at the bulb and it will be fully bright in 1 second, peaking to 3 times brightness in 3 seconds then back to normal brightness.
 
Thanks for the advice guys. I'm thinking of going for a 55W ballast. How long do you think the runtime will be with 55W on the thor battery?

Also can you guys comment on the conversion itself? How hard is it to do? What tools will I need? Thanks so much!
 
I'd guess about an hour, give or take if it's a 7 AH SLA. Tools to remove the bezel, crimpers to connect power to the ballast (or you could solder and shrink tube the splice) some way to secure the ballast and ignitor to the light. Make a couple of metal straps, or find a place to wedge it in. It's not going to take much in the way of tools. Be sure to try different positions of the lamp in the reflector well to check focus. If you can, use a target 50' or better away and go for the smallest hotspot.
 
BVH said:
I'd guess about an hour, give or take if it's a 7 AH SLA. Tools to remove the bezel, crimpers to connect power to the ballast (or you could solder and shrink tube the splice) some way to secure the ballast and ignitor to the light. Make a couple of metal straps, or find a place to wedge it in. It's not going to take much in the way of tools. Be sure to try different positions of the lamp in the reflector well to check focus. If you can, use a target 50' or better away and go for the smallest hotspot.
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Oh I can't use the original battery in the Thor? Would this work? http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004QBZA0E/?tag=cpf0b6-20
 
BVH said:
Yes, you can use the OEM battery. I remember my Thor batteries being a 7 Amp Hour SLA. Is yours different?
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I don't know since I didn't buy the Thor yet. I wanted to first see if I could do the mod fairly easily before buying everything.
 
BVH I understand I'll need some kind of spacer to get the bulb in the right position. Any idea where I could buy one of those (I don't have tools to make a custom spacer). Could I get something that works from walmart?

Besides crimpers, and tools to remove the bezel any other tools that I would need?
 
You may or may not need spacers/shims. Thin copper washers available at most hardware stores are a good starting point. If they don't fit completely around the lamp flange and into the reflector's well, you can sometimes break them in half and use the two halves on each side and it works fine. Can't think of any other tools needed.
 
BVH said:
You may or may not need spacers/shims. Thin copper washers available at most hardware stores are a good starting point. If they don't fit completely around the lamp flange and into the reflector's well, you can sometimes break them in half and use the two halves on each side and it works fine. Can't think of any other tools needed.
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Ok thanks BVH. But in terms of how to connect the bulb and what wires I connect where... the technical details. Is there any resource I can refer to, to help me out? I've never done an HID mod so I'm a total noob.
 
Sorry the site didn't work out,but glad you found that complaint site. Glad I haven't ordered from them yet. So I guess the search is on again.
 
Smood said:
Ok thanks BVH. But in terms of how to connect the bulb and what wires I connect where... the technical details. Is there any resource I can refer to, to help me out? I've never done an HID mod so I'm a total noob.
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The ballast will have 2 cables coming from it. One cable with a pair of wires in it will obviously connect directly to the bulbs' two wires. The other cable will have negative and positive wire with small spade connectors IIRC. You'll need to find the positive battery wire coming from the on/off switch and connect it to the + ballast input connector and find the battery negative wire coming from the battery and connect it to the - ballast input connector. That's pretty much it. If you need, snap a pic once you get it open and you get your kit and you can be directed.
 
Great thanks BVH, I'll post some pictures if I have questions once I get the setup. Have your or anyone else bought from ultrahid.com? I can get a 2x H4 HID set with slim ballast for $50. But just wondering if its a legit site.

Also is the igniter part of the ballast or something I have to buy separately? Thanks!
 
On the slim ballasts, the ignitor is that small square'ish box in the middle of the output cable. I can't recommend the fast bright (fast starting) ballast highly enough. Spend the extra money and have your light over 100% brightness is less than 2 seconds instead of a 10-15 second time to full brightness. Have not bought anything from Ultrahid. I've bought lots of stuff from Distantxtremes.com but I don't see them there any more. Check out this site: ww.xenon-man.com/English/Digital_Ballast_Fast_Bright.html
 
What about 70w fast start ballast in thor, will it get damaged by heat it produces if I put it inside the host? Thinking about building a "cannon" light if I can find cheap thor type host in finland. Is 7ah sla adequate to run it?
 
70 Watt in Thor works fine. The 7 AH SLA is "probably" OK if in new condition. I would guess maybe 20 - 25 minutes run time. Heat should be OK. You could stick some fireproof blanket material behind the reflector for improved protection.
 
BVH said:
On the slim ballasts, the ignitor is that small square'ish box in the middle of the output cable. I can't recommend the fast bright (fast starting) ballast highly enough. Spend the extra money and have your light over 100% brightness is less than 2 seconds instead of a 10-15 second time to full brightness. Have not bought anything from Ultrahid. I've bought lots of stuff from Distantxtremes.com but I don't see them there any more. Check out this site: ww.xenon-man.com/English/Digital_Ballast_Fast_Bright.html
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I don't see an option to buy the fast bright ballast BVH.

Also one other question. Can I use pliers to connect the power to the ballast rather than buying an actual crimper (just trying to save money)? Thanks!
 
Pliers will work so will soldering them. here's another site: I don't know if you can buy only one ballast/bulb or not. You'll have to call and ask. ww.longshotlighting.com/collections/fast-bright-hid-kits.

You might also try calling distantxtremes.com 888 462 5884
 
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