WolfEyes/Copia question

[Mr Ted Bear]

Can anyone tell me if any of the WolfEyes/Copia batteries and chargers have any kind of electrical/safety certification.. UL or CE??

 

[CM]

My 150B, 168B and chargers are all CE certified.

CM

 

[madecov]

Mine are also CE

 

[Alan]

All of my copia/pila batteries (150A; 150B; 168A; 168B) and chargers are CE approved.

Alan

 

[Mr Ted Bear]

Veryinteresting...

I'm forwarding this info to XYZ flashlight company; they are considerating incorporating the Li into some of their models

 

[CM]

XYZ = Surefire ??? I sure hope Surefire gets on the Li-Ion bandwagon. I've been using the Copia 150B's in my C3 for a month now and I'm impressed with the flatness of the discharge. Makes me wonder if I need the A2 that I have on order. The Copias have replaced the 123's in this flashlight--a few more charge discharge cycles and they will pay for themselves. If they incorporate a Li-Ion into an E2 size light (maybe a retro fit kit for the E2x with a 168B size cell and a 3.7V lamp assembly) I'll be buying a bunch of these.

CM

 

[madecov]

Would be incredible if SF decidd tgo replace the crappy B90 with Li-Ion in the 8Ax, 8NX,9AN. Could you imagine these lights with 80-90 minute run times ????

 

[Alan]

If SF have E2e with 168A (1.8A) and 3.7v lamp, I'll replace all of my 2 x 123 cells light - regular E2e, 6P, scorpion ... etc.. The 168A might increase E2e's diameter a little, but it's well worth.

Alan

 

[Mr Ted Bear]

xyz is not SureFire... SureFire has had the samples of the copias for quite some time and I know that they are not thoroughly convinced of their safety. I have seen the results of some Li-ion batteries exploding due to incorrect charging, discharging, and mismatching cells. They can explode = loss of finger/hand, and it's something that SF will not take a chnage with, for good reason.

No, XYZ does specialty lighting for the commercial dive industry

 

[Alan]

I have one NiMH AA (Sanyo 1850ma) explode in my Surge. The nimh AA wasn't properly charged by the one hour fast charger and the other 7 fully charged AA keep pumping current to the non-charged one. I was glad that explosion took place inside my pack not on my hand.

All high engery cells could explode if not properly handled. The best part of these Li-ion bat is its individual protective circuit in each cell.

Diving light, FA&Mi?

Alan

 

[brightnorm]

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Alan said:
I have one NiMH AA (Sanyo 1850ma) explode in my Surge.....I was glad that explosion took place inside my pack not on my hand. Alan



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Alan, can you describe the damage, how powerful was the explosion?

Brightnorm

 

[CM]

Yeah, did it turn the Surge into a small pipe bomb?

 

[Alan]

It exploded in my pack, so I couldn't tell exactly the way it exploded. It was a big BOOM and was very loud. After the explosion, the bezel is separated from the body and the reflector still remained in the bezel. The body of the flashlight is VERY hot and one side of the body bulge. I held the flashlight with a towel and flipped out the battery carrier. One of the batteries got exploded and the other one swelled and all of its wrap cover got melted. The battery carrier got melted and deformed. The bezel and reflector is intact and could be used in my other Surge. The lamp is also intact and work flawless on other Surge as well.

Based on its damage, the explosion only blew out the bezel but didn't blow the body into pieces, I assumed that if it exploded on my hand, the bezel would be blown to whatever direction the flashlight is pointed to without blowing my finger off. Of course, I won't do anything to prove this theory:-)

Alan

 

[Alan]

By the way, I stopped to use the GP one hour fast charger. I think the false peak caused the battery not charging. I heard that the same problem happened on Ray-o-vac one hr charger too.

Alan