Will the new ban on incan bulbs include flashlights?

Congress just passed a Ban on Incan Bulbs. Will this include flashlights, if not will this just accellerate their demise.

dd61999 said:

Congress just passed a Ban on Incan Bulbs. Will this include flashlights, if not will this just accellerate their demise.

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Where did you get this information from?

That's in Australia, right?

No, it's here in the US but it's a gradual phase-out. I'd love to know where one can read the actual bill that was just signed.


One portion of the bill sets new efficiency standards for appliances and will make the incandescent bulb -- invented two centuries ago and improved and commercialized by Edison in the 1880s -- virtually extinct by the middle of the next decade. The bill will phase out conventional incandescents, starting in 2012, with 100-watt bulbs, ultimately ceding the lighting market to more efficient compact fluorescent bulbs and light-emitting diodes (LEDs).

Here's what I found:

S.2017
Energy Efficient Lighting for a Brighter Tomorrow Act of 2007 (Introduced in Senate)

http://energy.senate.gov/public/_files/TestimonyDOEASKasner.pdf

http://energy.senate.gov/public/ind...ssRelease_id=235366&Month=9&Year=2007&Party=0

Just bills that have been introduced, as far as I can tell. Have to be voted on, Senate-House conference committee, etc.

KROMATICS said:

No, it's here in the US but it's a gradual phase-out. I'd love to know where one can read the actual bill that was just signed.

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www.senate.gov

http://thomas.loc.gov/

All the extra mercury in landfills is going to do womders for the environment

Here is an article of the bill being passed

http://biz.yahoo.com/usnews/071219/...as_we_know_it.html?.v=1&.pf=banking-budgeting

dd61999 said:

Here is an article of the bill being passed

http://biz.yahoo.com/usnews/071219/...as_we_know_it.html?.v=1&.pf=banking-budgeting

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Good to know. Thanks.

I should have researched it a bit further instead of the quick 1 minute thing before posting.

I found this but I went blind while trying to read it. There is an interesting part about prizes for developing efficient solid-state lighting. Lots of restrictions as to lumen range, color temperature, color rendering, etc. It sounded like they want to push LEDs to eventually be more competitive than Fluorescents.

I wonder when congress can expect a visit from Maglica's lobbyists?

While not an incan guy, I am sure someone will pass a exemption for portable lighting. Forget about flashlights, think about the bigger issue...CARS...

Trying to go green, I did convert my headlights to florescents. They do not light nearly as much of the road..... but it was soo worth it. Now I can leave my lights on for hours without the battery going dead!

I think I heard over the radio that the incan bulbs will be out by the year 2020.

In other words, by the time LEDs will be so much more efficient than present day incans that no-one will need any law to change over, they'll just do it to save money by themselves, the law will kick in!

Agreed.

Vinyl records, radio valves, gas lanterns and steam engines are not illegal. They will just gradually become less mainstream.

Whether that matters to you depends upon how much you like a particular incan torch. If one is important or valuable, then stock up on bulbs. We should have plenty of notice.

Ahhhh, radio valves . . . .


We call 'em Tubes here in the USA.


Still have many fond memories of listening to radios and record-players which utilized tubes.


The way they'd magically GLOW their soft orange color.


Listening in the dark was a lot more enjoyable with tube radios. :candle:



Thanks for the memory jolt, Ictorana. :thumbsup:



Do i sound OLD ? ? ?

:sigh:
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Ancient.

Grocery stores used to have machines to test your tubes. You would bring in the suspect ones, determine which were DOA and buy replacements on the spot.

You could heat a room with a TV, radio and incans. Ahhhhh the good old days.

oregon

About bloody time, if you ask me.

Question: are halogens considered incandescents or what?

By halogen do you mean HID lamps?

KROMATICS said:

The bill will phase out conventional incandescents, starting in 2012, with 100-watt bulbs, ...

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Wouldn't it make more sense to start with small bulbs?

dd61999 said:

Here is an article of the bill being passed

http://biz.yahoo.com/usnews/071219/...as_we_know_it.html?.v=1&.pf=banking-budgeting

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Ninety percent of the energy that an incandescent light bulb burns is wasted as heat.

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I believe 90% of the energy that a P4 Cree burns at 350mA is wasted as heat - even more at higher current.

No more Bulb's to blow