What does the number in LED Flashlights stand for?

lesliemorris85

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I was looking online at LED flashlights and some say 9 LED, some say 32 LED, and some say 100 LED. What does the number stand for? Output intensity? I know it does not stand for the quantity of flashlights in that auction because they are all 1 item auctions.

Thanks for your input!
 
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Without specifying what light you are talking about, I don't think anyone can help you. I don't recall anyone using 9, 32, or 100 LED to describe a flashlight here and the information you provided here is really vague.
 

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I was looking online at LED flashlights and some say 9 LED, some say 32 LED, and some say 100 LED. What does the number stand for? Output intensity? I know it does not stand for the quantity of flashlights in that auction because they are all 1 item auctions.

Thanks for your input!

Probably referring to how many 5mm LEDs there are.
Lots of cheap $1 flashlights out there are 9-5mm flashlights
I have a few of those :laughing:
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I don't know about 32 or 100 LEDs though... that's a lot!
 

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It does sound like shower head initially until I read 100 LED. Haven't heard of one before in a portable handheld light.
 

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lesliemorris85,
You would probably be better served to get a somewhat better quality flashlight that has just one led, and a parabolic reflector to more efficiently utilize the light being produced. The design of having multiple leds just sitting there next to each other, isn't very efficient, and tends to be done only in lower quality lights, although there may be exceptions I'm not aware of.
 

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Those flashlights use out of date 5 mm LEDs originally designed IN THE LAST CENTURY!!! (~1995 by Nichia). Because multiple LEDs are difficult to build with reflectors they are all flood no throw. (I have seen reflectors on multi-LED 6V lanterns with the big 4 inch heads.)
9 LED means the flashlight has 9 of them, 32 LED means have 32 of them.
Those LEDs are also very dim. About 3 lumens each. So a 9 LED flashlight is ~27 lumens, a 32 LED is about ~90 lumens.
They are also very poorly heatsinked. When used for short periods of time such as looking for something dropped under a desk is fine. But hour long walks would burn up the LEDs. Some tests have shown thy last only 20 hours in continuous use.
I would stay away from them except for very casual use.
Dollar stores usually have them on sale plus a package of batteries on the way out costs you $2 and no wait for shipping. No need to go to ebay.

Here are some comparisons of brightness of a good single LED.
Luxeon (2000) 30 lumens 50,000 hours.
Luxeon III (2002) 75 lumens 50,000 hours.
Luxeon IV (2003) 200 lumens 1,000 hours.
Cree XRE P4 bin (2005) 80 lumens 50,000 hours.
Cree XRE Q5 bin (2008) 120 lumens 50,000 hours. (200 lumens when overdriven.)
Cree XPG (2010) 120 lumens 50,000 hours.. (280 lumens when overdriven.)
Cree XML (2012) 240 lumens 50,000 hours.. (Almost always overdriven to 800+ lumens.)
Dates and numbers are approximate. I'm going from memory.
27 lumens for 9 LED? Meh!!!

You can find old stock Cree XRE for not much more than the 9 LED versions at DX or ebay. They are usually just listed under the bin rating - P4, Q2, Q3, Q4, Q5.
 

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Those flashlights use out of date 5 mm LEDs originally designed IN THE LAST CENTURY!!! (~1995 by Nichia). Because multiple LEDs are difficult to build with reflectors they are all flood no throw. (I have seen reflectors on multi-LED 6V lanterns with the big 4 inch heads.)
9 LED means the flashlight has 9 of them, 32 LED means have 32 of them.
Those LEDs are also very dim. About 3 lumens each. So a 9 LED flashlight is ~27 lumens, a 32 LED is about ~90 lumens.
They are also very poorly heatsinked. When used for short periods of time such as looking for something dropped under a desk is fine. But hour long walks would burn up the LEDs. Some tests have shown thy last only 20 hours in continuous use.

Plastic 5mm LEDs cannot be heatsinked, since plastic does not really conduct heat (meaning very badly). When a 5mm leds only lasts 20 hours it is overdriven. Since it is overdriven there is too much heat trapped inside which cannot get out.

I would stay away from them except for very casual use.

I agree :)

Dollar stores usually have them on sale plus a package of batteries on the way out costs you $2 and no wait for shipping. No need to go to ebay.

Here are some comparisons of brightness of a good single LED.
Luxeon (2000) 30 lumens 50,000 hours.
Luxeon III (2002) 75 lumens 50,000 hours.
Luxeon IV (2003) 200 lumens 1,000 hours.
Cree XRE P4 bin (2005) 80 lumens 50,000 hours.
Cree XRE Q5 bin (2008) 120 lumens 50,000 hours. (200 lumens when overdriven.)
Cree XPG (2010) 120 lumens 50,000 hours.. (280 lumens when overdriven.)
Cree XML (2012) 240 lumens 50,000 hours.. (Almost always overdriven to 800+ lumens.)
Dates and numbers are approximate. I'm going from memory.
27 lumens for 9 LED? Meh!!!

You can find old stock Cree XRE for not much more than the 9 LED versions at DX or ebay. They are usually just listed under the bin rating - P4, Q2, Q3, Q4, Q5.

The lumen numbers you mention for the power leds are way off. A Cree XR-E R2 led produces 257-275 Lumens at a current of 1A. 1A is the maximum rated current for XR-E LEDs. Anyhing above this is considered overdriving.

Similarily an XP-G R5 at its maximum current of 1.5A will produce 463-493 Lumens. And then there are the even more efficient S2 and S3 Bins.

I totally agree with you though that 5mm leds are not meant for flashlights. Any power led from the XR-E onward is better in my opinion.
 

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A 100 led shoverhead means if you put it under the shower, the water has 100 weak spots to get flooded. Stay away from the showerheads, unless youre poor and stupid haha :)
 
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