American (USA) made flashlights

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stitch_paradox

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yeah i did, sorry for my ignorance though. but why dod they have this posted at their website?

http://www.maglite.com/Mag_commitment.asp


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[FONT=arial,helvetica]"Every Mag Instrument flashlight, no matter where in the world it ends up, comes from a factory located in the U.S.A. and staffed by American workers."

are they misleading their customers?
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yeah i did, sorry for my ignorance though. but why dod they have this posted at their website?

http://www.maglite.com/Mag_commitment.asp


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[FONT=arial,helvetica]"Every Mag Instrument flashlight, no matter where in the world it ends up, comes from a factory located in the U.S.A. and staffed by American workers."

are they misleading their customers?
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Please read as "comes from an assembly plant located in the USA..."

A sufficient number of their components are now imported as to no longer quality for "Made in USA", but rather "Product of USA" or "Assembled in USA"
 

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[FONT=arial,helvetica]"Every Mag Instrument flashlight, no matter where in the world it ends up, comes from a factory located in the U.S.A. and staffed by American workers."

are they misleading their customers?
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They do not say anything about the where the different parts of the flashlight comes from, just that the finished light comes from the us factory.
They probably means that the light is assembled at the factory and maybe the metal work is also done at the factory.
 

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Ok this is my say. Who among you have seen the Maglite plant? I did a few years ago, and I'm pretty much sure that the light are all made there. They do machine the body of the lights there. The only parts that I can think of that is probably made outside the US are the bulb and the other accessories such as the holster, the traffic wand, etc. And due to legal issues here in America when a complete light comes out of the factory and the bulb is made elswhere then they cannot fully say that the light is made in the US.
 

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Ok this is my say. Who among you have seen the Maglite plant? I did a few years ago, and I'm pretty much sure that the light are all made there. They do machine the body of the lights there. The only parts that I can think of that is probably made outside the US are the bulb and the other accessories such as the holster, the traffic wand, etc. And due to legal issues here in America when a complete light comes out of the factory and the bulb is made elswhere then they cannot fully say that the light is made in the US.


For them to no longer be able to claim "Made in USA", it must be a sizable % imported.
http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/buspubs/madeusa.shtm

Keep in mind that MagLite only changed this a few years ago. If your visit was prior to then, things were indeed different.

Leatherman also recently got hit with not being able to claim "Made in USA", as major components are now made in Mexico.
 

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And due to legal issues here in America when a complete light comes out of the factory and the bulb is made elswhere then they cannot fully say that the light is made in the US.

Exactly what you said. Because the light contains foreign components Mag cannot legally claim "Made in USA".

So what was the question?
 

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Can someone confirm for me if SuperFire lights (the "real" ones) are in fact made in USA like the bigcowboy claims in my youtube video comments?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HD34YvaGMoo

I don't mean... if they are a US based company outsourcing parts from Asia. I mean is it a LEGIT made/manufactured in USA product. Or at least are the non-electrical parts USA made.

http://www.superfireusa.com/

???
thanks!! I'm just seeking the truth!!
 

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Can someone confirm for me if SuperFire lights (the "real" ones) are in fact made in USA like the bigcowboy claims in my youtube video comments?....

They look like their lights are Made in China.... If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck....
 
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Yeah - $9.77 from DX... :thumbsdow if it was made in USA, they're sure not makin' any money! :laughing:

It's pretty lame :shakehead that they put "USA" in their brand name - not to mention it's curiousle close to "SureFire" as a name.... "clever" marketing to try and fool those who are easily fooled! :( They'd probably say that they're "designed in USA".. :ironic:
 

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LEDninja,

IIRC, some of Elektrolumens are made in the US, and some are made overseas. :thinking:

Could you provide verification that all of Elektrolumens' lights are US-made?

Thanks! :wave:
john
 

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Can someone confirm for me if SuperFire lights (the "real" ones) are in fact made in USA like the bigcowboy claims in my youtube video comments?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HD34YvaGMoo

I don't mean... if they are a US based company outsourcing parts from Asia. I mean is it a LEGIT made/manufactured in USA product. Or at least are the non-electrical parts USA made.

http://www.superfireusa.com/

???
thanks!! I'm just seeking the truth!!
Superfire is as chinese as it gets. Superfire is more chinese than Kung-Fu and Wok pans.
 

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LEDninja,

IIRC, some of Elektrolumens are made in the US, and some are made overseas. :thinking:

Could you provide verification that all of Elektrolumens' lights are US-made?

Thanks! :wave:
john
Elektrolumens used to design some lights that were subcontracted to Chinese manufacturers but has not done so for the last 3 years or so. All the more recent lights are made in Oregon:
My Little Friend,
Lucidus,
DeCree/Firelion,
Quadstar Phazer,
Long Throw,
Ohio,
Shadeslayer 7
Assorted SSC-P4 & P7 drop ins,
Mag P7.

My Little Friend at ~200 units was his last big run. After that it was custom builds or small batches, not enough to subcontract out.

One of his problems with not outsourcing his designs is falling way behind on delivery.
People have waited over a year for the Quadstar Phazers. He's got all the parts machined and is now assembling 1 or 2 a day. (I just looked up his status page - 53 pre-ordered between 2006-07-18 and 2007-05-14. Ouch!)
The long throw is still in the queue. People ordered the K2 long throw. While they were waiting it became the P4 long throw and now the P7 long throw. People are still waiting.
Some Lucidus & Ohio is still in the queue.

If you go through the threads of the above mentioned lights you can see him posting pictures of the finished bodies, heads, tailcaps etc. to show he is still working on the lights. You won't see those pictures if the lights were made overseas.
 

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RE ElektroLumens:

It's rare these days to get a product that's designed and built by hand by one man.
 
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